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Video http://www.rai.tv/mpplaymedia/0,,RaiTre-Report%5E17%5E23688,00.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onoFRPa3wkk
this is the english translation of the movie that you can see below in Italian Language http://www.report.rai.it/R2_popup_articolofoglia/0,7246,243%255E1072182,00.html
MILENA Gabanelli IN SMALL OFFICE
The good news today is science.
Almost all civil servants today to do their job have a computer.
Need to use many programs and programs cost money.
In Bolzano have found a way to save a lot '. Giuliano Marrucci.
GIULIANO Marrucci OUTSIDE FIELD
This is one of 83 English language schools in the province. 50 computers that until two years ago cost 100 euros each a year only for the programs.
GIULIANO Marrucci
With these 100 euros for computer what to buy ?
PAUL ZILOTTI-School Superintendent
We always bought the latest version of the operating system and office suite.
GIULIANO Marrucci
So office ?
PAUL ZILOTTI-School Superintendent
Office.
GIULIANO Marrucci
And enough ?
PAUL ZILOTTI-School Superintendent
End !
GIULIANO Marrucci OUTSIDE FIELD
Operating system and Office suite are the gasoline of the computer, without those you can not do anything.
For us ordinary mortals are synonymous with windows and office, commercial programs produced by microsoft, but ordinary mortals often wrong.
BARBARA REPETTO Department for work Prov. Bolzano
The alternative is the free software, which we as a government we are committed in these two years, we had to migrate from microsoft free software for all schools of the Italian province of Bolzano.
GIULIANO Marrucci OUTSIDE FIELD
Free software works just like the commercial, but it's free.
While the microsoft licenses each year for the Italian language schools in the province is paid 269.000 euros a year.
GIULIANO Marrucci
So what practically until yesterday you paid 269.000 euros a year, the same thing now you do it free ?
BARBARA REPETTO Department for work Prov. Bolzano
To 27.000 euros, as maintenance is a maintenance cost.
GIULIANO Marrucci
Then one-tenth
GIULIANO Marrucci OUTSIDE FIELD
And without giving up anything, even ... ...
PAUL ZILOTTI-School Superintendent
We wanted to make sure that when comparing the software to the textbook, students could take home this book, it could copy, all in a legal manner.
GIULIANO Marrucci OUTSIDE FIELD
Eh already, because the beauty of free software is that it can be freely copied.
And so what we use at school, you can take home.
GIULIANO Marrucci
What are these so-here ?
EZIO-MONASTERO Coord. Group tutorial of information technology
These allow the installation to house distribution FUSS we have done for schools.
That is, there are educational software that are used in primary, secondary and higher education.
GIULIANO Marrucci
How many disks as you distribute this ?
EZIO-MONASTERO Coord. Group tutorial of information technology
I think a 20.000 diskettes. The cost was the printing of the cd's, 4000/5000 euros
GIULIANO Marrucci OUTSIDE FIELD
And so to save money over to the public are also the families, because if a school is using commercial programs, it is up to buy a license for home.
EZIO-MONASTERO Coord. Group tutorial of information technology
Unless you pass the normal operation of several that download not lawful.
GIULIANO Marrucci
Then we impose a charge or a crime ?
EZIO-MONASTERO Coord. Group tutorial of information technology
Exactly, a school should instead educate the law.
GIULIANO Marrucci OUTSIDE FIELD
Simple no ? Bolzano and yet remains an isolated case.
BARBARA REPETTO Department for work Prov. Bolzano
Inside the jam is the fact that this step requires a very considerable effort, since in the sphere of training of the school, is the government who is dealing with, not always in this kind of administration is this propulsive thrust towards innovation, towards change.
GIULIANO Marrucci
That is like saying money since our son ... ....
BARBARA REPETTO Department for work Prov. Bolzano
Yes, there is some 'resistance to change, that should make more effort in, is the speech of those who makes me the word no ?
GIULIANO Marrucci OUTSIDE FIELD
Here thinked a boy who came from Argentina.
ANTONIO RUSSO
I came here from Argentina, from Buenos Aires, in'99, two years before the crisis,
I worked for a bank that I knew before that there was something that did not work very well.
GIULIANO Marrucci
You could say to us ...
ANTONIO RUSSO
I could definitely say it but I would have believed.
BARBARA REPETTO Department for work Prov. Bolzano
Yes, there is some 'resistance to change, that should make more effort in, is the speech of those who makes me the word no ?
GIULIANO Marrucci OUTSIDE FIELD
Used to say things that others do not believe, just landed in Bolzano, Anthony is taken as an accountant by training for the province, a strategic location to launch the battle for the
free software.
ANTONIO RUSSO
We started in 2001 by organizing vocational training courses aimed at business from an idea that we believed that the system was already mature, and could use it for productivity, and companies, public administrations.
GIULIANO Marrucci OUTSIDE FIELD
Moreover, to demonstrate that free software was a mature Bolzano was the Sad, the local transport company, the first in the world to use in a corporate environment nearly 15 years ago, saving time by about 300.000 euro for year.
GIULIANO Marrucci
You are Genoan isn't true ?
MAURIZIO CACHIA Dir computing SAD-local transport
I am of Genoese origin.
GIULIANO Marrucci
It's for that...
MAURIZIO CACHIA Dir computing SAD-local transport
I am Genoan, I live in Val di Non, say that the valley is not a Genova of Trentino ...
GIULIANO Marrucci OUTSIDE FIELD
Building on this example, Antonio begins to knock at the doors of all offices of the province.
First stage, the consortium of municipalities.
GIULIANO Marrucci
Antonio has convinced ?
HUGO Leiter - Dir Information Service Prov. Bolzano
He was of great help, is extraordinary. I have to admire what he has managed to do.
HUGO Leiter - Dir Information Service Prov. Bolzano
If we were to replace all the software proprietary software with open should spend at least half a million.
GIULIANO Marrucci
One-off ?
HUGO Leiter - Dir Information Service Prov. Bolzano
One-off, these must be added the annual costs of management, upgrade and maintenance.
GIULIANO Marrucci OUTSIDE FIELD
Second stage training agricultural and forestry where the free software they use to make courses on the internet.
But the fun is yet to come. Why migrate largest they made about 4500 pc of the province, from microsoft office to his free, open office.
GIULIANO Marrucci
And how much you save ?
Hellmuth LADURNER Dir-sharing computer Prov. Bolzano
More than one million euros a year.
GIULIANO Marrucci
Eh ?
Hellmuth LADURNER Dir-sharing computer prov. Bolzano
More than one million euros a year.
MILENA Gabanelli IN SMALL OFFICE
Free software you can 'download from the internet and there are also instructions to install it.
And while we would also be a good thing if public officials who try to be awarded a bonus, to encourage all Antonio Russo that there are around.
domenica 12 aprile 2009
sabato 11 aprile 2009
Gag to Internet: Digital rights and Internet rules & Co A real defense of the user, without putting the gag on the free flow of information
Digital rights and Internet rules & Co A real defense of the user, without putting the gag on the free flow of information
By using the internet phone call with the phone, Facebook following the use of satellite tv on: Digital is now become a daily bread for many Italians.
A new market has been stated in a very short space of time.
A market with high technology, but also marked by the usual Old problems: firstly the lack of competition and Transparency.
And the lack of attention to user interests.
All compounded in many cases by the absence of rules, including Because of laws that are struggling to keep pace with the continuing Changes that characterize the world digitally.
ON 23 APRIL 2009 WE DISCUSS IN ROME
As part of our campaign "Law Network", we have organized a conference for April 23 in Rome, the Hall of Columns of the House of Representatives (from 09:30 am to 05:00 pm).
The theme is broad: the aim is to analyze, with all the Stakeholders, the most important current issues related to A proper and efficient development of the digital market.
Will devote particular attention to the rights and obligations of those who Handles both of the person using the network.
We need to safeguard the world from internet abuse (violation Of privacy, defamation) but did not put the gag Free flow of information (also see the video on our Site).
Among others, joined our meeting European Commissioner For consumers Meglena Kuneva.
NEW LAWS FOR THE NETWORK
The conference marks the launch of our campaign for better Regulation of the Internet world.
At this point, one of the hot spots in question concerns Piracy in the digital age: remind you about our site You can sign the petition so that the discussion on the new Law to be heard all parties involved, including Associations representing consumers.
Among the other topics that face our country: the Implementation of next generation networks of fiber optics, the Problem of the digital divide * (ie the areas not reached by Broadband), the spread of the social network and the initial phase of Switch to digital TV, for now characterized more by shadows By lighting.
Our campaign
http://www.altroconsumo.it/dirittodirete
Page 4 and 5 of Altroconsumo number 225 April 2009
By using the internet phone call with the phone, Facebook following the use of satellite tv on: Digital is now become a daily bread for many Italians.
A new market has been stated in a very short space of time.
A market with high technology, but also marked by the usual Old problems: firstly the lack of competition and Transparency.
And the lack of attention to user interests.
All compounded in many cases by the absence of rules, including Because of laws that are struggling to keep pace with the continuing Changes that characterize the world digitally.
ON 23 APRIL 2009 WE DISCUSS IN ROME
As part of our campaign "Law Network", we have organized a conference for April 23 in Rome, the Hall of Columns of the House of Representatives (from 09:30 am to 05:00 pm).
The theme is broad: the aim is to analyze, with all the Stakeholders, the most important current issues related to A proper and efficient development of the digital market.
Will devote particular attention to the rights and obligations of those who Handles both of the person using the network.
We need to safeguard the world from internet abuse (violation Of privacy, defamation) but did not put the gag Free flow of information (also see the video on our Site).
Among others, joined our meeting European Commissioner For consumers Meglena Kuneva.
NEW LAWS FOR THE NETWORK
The conference marks the launch of our campaign for better Regulation of the Internet world.
At this point, one of the hot spots in question concerns Piracy in the digital age: remind you about our site You can sign the petition so that the discussion on the new Law to be heard all parties involved, including Associations representing consumers.
Among the other topics that face our country: the Implementation of next generation networks of fiber optics, the Problem of the digital divide * (ie the areas not reached by Broadband), the spread of the social network and the initial phase of Switch to digital TV, for now characterized more by shadows By lighting.
Our campaign
http://www.altroconsumo.it/dirittodirete
Page 4 and 5 of Altroconsumo number 225 April 2009
venerdì 10 aprile 2009
Gag to Internet: The ddl Carlucci arrived in Parliament
http://www.zeusnews.com/index.php3?ar=stampa&cod=9672
The ddl Carlucci arrived in Parliament
The Italian web occurs but Gabriella Carlucci momentum: the proposed law that will abolish the anonymity comes at the IX Transport Commission.
[ZEUS News - http://www.zeusnews.com - 16-03-2009]
Secure of goodness and necessity of the proposal - as he said a few days ago - and completely ignoring the flood of protests that was raised in front of a bill not only censorious, but even so useless as inapplicable, Gabriella Carlucci has managed to bring the ddl in 2195 to a parliamentary committee.
Apparently it matters little if not too far away, in Switzerland, the father of the Web celebrates 20 years of its creation by reiterating the need for Internet freedom and denouncing, in a speech to the House of Lords English, the dangers of those who wants to control all information placed online by users: the Carlucci must abolish anonymity.
To fight against pedophiles, of course, even if the proposal comes from the mind of the President of Univideo, even if talk of combating crimes such as slander, libel and insult that have nothing to do with pedophilia, even if it is to extend Internet laws in the press despite the Cassation is not precisely the same view. Although everyone seems just another attempt to muzzle the Web
Despite all this, the IX Transport Commission will examine the text of ddl in 2195 that, if approved, would require to record and store every single online action of any individual user.
"But the Commission will block" could hope someone sull'intelligenza counting of at least part of the 44 members. Yet it is difficult to remain optimistic when you discover that the Vice-President of the Commission is Luca Barbareschi.
The ddl Carlucci arrived in Parliament
The Italian web occurs but Gabriella Carlucci momentum: the proposed law that will abolish the anonymity comes at the IX Transport Commission.
[ZEUS News - http://www.zeusnews.com - 16-03-2009]
Secure of goodness and necessity of the proposal - as he said a few days ago - and completely ignoring the flood of protests that was raised in front of a bill not only censorious, but even so useless as inapplicable, Gabriella Carlucci has managed to bring the ddl in 2195 to a parliamentary committee.
Apparently it matters little if not too far away, in Switzerland, the father of the Web celebrates 20 years of its creation by reiterating the need for Internet freedom and denouncing, in a speech to the House of Lords English, the dangers of those who wants to control all information placed online by users: the Carlucci must abolish anonymity.
To fight against pedophiles, of course, even if the proposal comes from the mind of the President of Univideo, even if talk of combating crimes such as slander, libel and insult that have nothing to do with pedophilia, even if it is to extend Internet laws in the press despite the Cassation is not precisely the same view. Although everyone seems just another attempt to muzzle the Web
Despite all this, the IX Transport Commission will examine the text of ddl in 2195 that, if approved, would require to record and store every single online action of any individual user.
"But the Commission will block" could hope someone sull'intelligenza counting of at least part of the 44 members. Yet it is difficult to remain optimistic when you discover that the Vice-President of the Commission is Luca Barbareschi.
Gag to Internet: The forums are not printing, but maybe yes blog
http://www.zeusnews.com/index.php3?ar=stampa&cod=9640
The forums are not printing, but maybe yes blog
The ruling of the Cassation not free blogs from the impositions of the law on the press: Only forum, for now, they are clearly exempt.
[ZEUS News - http://www.zeusnews.com - 12-03-2009]
The recent ruling by the Court of Cassation, which rules out the forums for the media to which the press law was decidedly unhappy aduc, but the media in general have hailed this decision as a good news for freedom of the Network
The question is actually more complicated than appears at first sight.
The current situation provides for the initiatives of various political forces - including Gabriella Carlucci is just the latest example - to enforce the laws on the press for what is published on the Internet.
Since the days of the bill that would require bloggers and webmasters in general to register the Roc (the Registry of Operators of Communication), the Italian network has always been opposed to these attempts to unnecessary bureaucratic regulation (and suspected of complaint): in all conscience, how can a personal diary, be treated as a body of information ?
Not a few bloggers that, to avoid this abomination, still exhibit on their pages the words: "This blog is not a newspaper in what is being updated without any periodicity. It can not therefore be considered as an editorial product under Law No. 62 of 7.03.2001. Yet the idea of regulating the Internet as a huge newsstand had not died.
That is why the ruling of the Cassation seemed to many so important: it appears to represent an official statement which should put an end to the dispute on the comparability of forums and blogs to newspapers.
Yet this reasoning is not a small flaw: the Cassation spoke of forum, not blog. General that the press is not attentive to these subtleties is even understandable, but the difference is substantial.
Henceforth it is clear that anyone who runs a forum is not required to record the head, indicating a director, to submit to all such limitations as are prescribed by law on the press.
Some may not even have the protections listed in the same text, but that's not the point. The point is that, instead, on the blog is still not clear.
The two media are different.
Even the judge or the legislature more distracted notice a difference, though, qualify as "news" there is the periodicity of the host content determined and can be a source of income (for which even a single banner would be enough), here is a blog that seems to answer perfectly or nearly so, whereas a forum is so much different.
Neither are very clear what are the criteria for defining the frequency of "which seems to be an important discrimine: to be comparable to a newspaper, a blog any length of time to be updated ?
Daily ?
It might be a newspaper.
Once a week ?
It could be a weekly.
Once a month ?
A monthly.
Just lengthen the period of time, and now that the schedule is.
For some, even just the fact that, from time to time, the author writes, simply that there is a minimum of regularity - the blog is not abandoned, but are new post even if not time-bound.
All this is not covered by the ruling of the Cassation, nor was his intention to do so.
The case of blogger sentenced for defamation (and failed control) or for the crime of clandestine press in recent times there have been and the Supreme Court apparently has not addressed the matter: the only ones who can celebrate for now (but always in moderation, as is necessary in these cases) are perhaps the managers of the forums.
It remains the case with comments on the blog: some may be considered "forum" and therefore not subject to the laws on the press, according to others are a matter of who runs the blog.
The forums are not printing, but maybe yes blog
The ruling of the Cassation not free blogs from the impositions of the law on the press: Only forum, for now, they are clearly exempt.
[ZEUS News - http://www.zeusnews.com - 12-03-2009]
The recent ruling by the Court of Cassation, which rules out the forums for the media to which the press law was decidedly unhappy aduc, but the media in general have hailed this decision as a good news for freedom of the Network
The question is actually more complicated than appears at first sight.
The current situation provides for the initiatives of various political forces - including Gabriella Carlucci is just the latest example - to enforce the laws on the press for what is published on the Internet.
Since the days of the bill that would require bloggers and webmasters in general to register the Roc (the Registry of Operators of Communication), the Italian network has always been opposed to these attempts to unnecessary bureaucratic regulation (and suspected of complaint): in all conscience, how can a personal diary, be treated as a body of information ?
Not a few bloggers that, to avoid this abomination, still exhibit on their pages the words: "This blog is not a newspaper in what is being updated without any periodicity. It can not therefore be considered as an editorial product under Law No. 62 of 7.03.2001. Yet the idea of regulating the Internet as a huge newsstand had not died.
That is why the ruling of the Cassation seemed to many so important: it appears to represent an official statement which should put an end to the dispute on the comparability of forums and blogs to newspapers.
Yet this reasoning is not a small flaw: the Cassation spoke of forum, not blog. General that the press is not attentive to these subtleties is even understandable, but the difference is substantial.
Henceforth it is clear that anyone who runs a forum is not required to record the head, indicating a director, to submit to all such limitations as are prescribed by law on the press.
Some may not even have the protections listed in the same text, but that's not the point. The point is that, instead, on the blog is still not clear.
The two media are different.
Even the judge or the legislature more distracted notice a difference, though, qualify as "news" there is the periodicity of the host content determined and can be a source of income (for which even a single banner would be enough), here is a blog that seems to answer perfectly or nearly so, whereas a forum is so much different.
Neither are very clear what are the criteria for defining the frequency of "which seems to be an important discrimine: to be comparable to a newspaper, a blog any length of time to be updated ?
Daily ?
It might be a newspaper.
Once a week ?
It could be a weekly.
Once a month ?
A monthly.
Just lengthen the period of time, and now that the schedule is.
For some, even just the fact that, from time to time, the author writes, simply that there is a minimum of regularity - the blog is not abandoned, but are new post even if not time-bound.
All this is not covered by the ruling of the Cassation, nor was his intention to do so.
The case of blogger sentenced for defamation (and failed control) or for the crime of clandestine press in recent times there have been and the Supreme Court apparently has not addressed the matter: the only ones who can celebrate for now (but always in moderation, as is necessary in these cases) are perhaps the managers of the forums.
It remains the case with comments on the blog: some may be considered "forum" and therefore not subject to the laws on the press, according to others are a matter of who runs the blog.
Gag to Internet: For Cassation forums are not equivalent to the press
http://www.zeusnews.com/index.php3?ar=stampa&cod=9615
For Cassation forums are not equivalent to the press
The laws in the press with its safeguards do not apply to discussions between users: the Supreme Court for the sequestration of messages on the forum is legitimate.
[ZEUS News - http://www.zeusnews.com - 11-03-2009]
A ruling by the Supreme Court makes clear the rights and obligations of those who runs an online forum: other than those provided for print and TV for less protection, but also for the lack of registration and appointment of legal responsibility.
"It is now confirmed that we are all less free" so the title's association with consumers aduc commenting the decision of the Cassation which does not recognize in the discussion forums online guarentigie the same - but also the same obligations - which they may be printed.
The story dates back to 2006 when, upon complaint of the Meter of Don Fortunato Di Noto, forums aduc were subjected to abduction, why the complaint was the presence of certain messages are accused of violating Article 403 of the Criminal Code (insult a confession by contempt for religious people).
Enter now to the question of the matter is now out of time: the forums were actually insults and phrases that definitely does not belong to anyone who knows how to make a civil and just did not need to deploy personnel on the offensive to defend their ideas, but by Here the complaint will probably run.
Approximately the same view was also aduc, which at that time presented a Parliamentary question - still waiting for answers - and a review of the measure aimed at achieving seizure dimming of the sun incriminating phrases rather than whole the Forum, the Association has been right on appeal, but is also used in Cassazione to get the seizure of the nine post also indicted.
The Supreme Court has stated that the forum "is simply a discussion area where users or registered users are free to express their thoughts but not for this forum is subject to the rules and obligations which they may be printed (as indicate a Director responsible for the registration of the head) or may benefit from the guarentigie on seizure that the Constitution reserves only to the press. " So the seizure was lawful.
The ruling is ambivalent: on the one hand, this could put an end to the ambitions of those who would like to extend to the whole Internet laws in the press, although in reality it is early to say, the Cassation, in the end, it was expressed on the forum without considering explicitly in other forms of expression, such as blogs.
On the other hand, the lack of "guarentigie" that allow journalists not to run into a complaint every three words exposes a part of the Internet at risk of being censured by a hitherto unimaginable ease.
Therefore, if the managers of the forums do not seem to be held accountable as published by the users, it is also true that because of actions of these same users may see suddenly closed its site.
For Cassation forums are not equivalent to the press
The laws in the press with its safeguards do not apply to discussions between users: the Supreme Court for the sequestration of messages on the forum is legitimate.
[ZEUS News - http://www.zeusnews.com - 11-03-2009]
A ruling by the Supreme Court makes clear the rights and obligations of those who runs an online forum: other than those provided for print and TV for less protection, but also for the lack of registration and appointment of legal responsibility.
"It is now confirmed that we are all less free" so the title's association with consumers aduc commenting the decision of the Cassation which does not recognize in the discussion forums online guarentigie the same - but also the same obligations - which they may be printed.
The story dates back to 2006 when, upon complaint of the Meter of Don Fortunato Di Noto, forums aduc were subjected to abduction, why the complaint was the presence of certain messages are accused of violating Article 403 of the Criminal Code (insult a confession by contempt for religious people).
Enter now to the question of the matter is now out of time: the forums were actually insults and phrases that definitely does not belong to anyone who knows how to make a civil and just did not need to deploy personnel on the offensive to defend their ideas, but by Here the complaint will probably run.
Approximately the same view was also aduc, which at that time presented a Parliamentary question - still waiting for answers - and a review of the measure aimed at achieving seizure dimming of the sun incriminating phrases rather than whole the Forum, the Association has been right on appeal, but is also used in Cassazione to get the seizure of the nine post also indicted.
The Supreme Court has stated that the forum "is simply a discussion area where users or registered users are free to express their thoughts but not for this forum is subject to the rules and obligations which they may be printed (as indicate a Director responsible for the registration of the head) or may benefit from the guarentigie on seizure that the Constitution reserves only to the press. " So the seizure was lawful.
The ruling is ambivalent: on the one hand, this could put an end to the ambitions of those who would like to extend to the whole Internet laws in the press, although in reality it is early to say, the Cassation, in the end, it was expressed on the forum without considering explicitly in other forms of expression, such as blogs.
On the other hand, the lack of "guarentigie" that allow journalists not to run into a complaint every three words exposes a part of the Internet at risk of being censured by a hitherto unimaginable ease.
Therefore, if the managers of the forums do not seem to be held accountable as published by the users, it is also true that because of actions of these same users may see suddenly closed its site.
http://www.zeusnews.com/index.php3?ar=stampa&cod=10036
Sarkozy rejected the doctrine on online piracy
Against all expectations, the Parliament rejects the Hadopi. But the bill could be delayed only a few weeks.
[ZEUS News - http://www.zeusnews.com - 09-04-2009]
Losses burning sound spanking and supporters of the theory of "three blows" because the French National Assembly has rejected, with the votes of some members of the governing party, discussed the law on "protection of creativity on the Internet."
One reason should perhaps be sought in the hardening conditions of sanctions imposed by the Senate in the Joint Commission Inter, or can only be an exhibition of independence just to save face, of this view is Roger Karoutchi, minister of relations with the parliament, which states that minimizing the more the law will be delayed a few weeks of being resubmitted with minor variations.
In the meantime, an alarm bell will sound for Bondi & Co. who, taking advantage of the general inattention due to the tragic events of Abruzzo trying to pass off quietly in a series of rules remaking the disputed Hadopi, forgetting perhaps that is just around the corner a "verification" by the electorate.
Sarkozy rejected the doctrine on online piracy
Against all expectations, the Parliament rejects the Hadopi. But the bill could be delayed only a few weeks.
[ZEUS News - http://www.zeusnews.com - 09-04-2009]
Losses burning sound spanking and supporters of the theory of "three blows" because the French National Assembly has rejected, with the votes of some members of the governing party, discussed the law on "protection of creativity on the Internet."
One reason should perhaps be sought in the hardening conditions of sanctions imposed by the Senate in the Joint Commission Inter, or can only be an exhibition of independence just to save face, of this view is Roger Karoutchi, minister of relations with the parliament, which states that minimizing the more the law will be delayed a few weeks of being resubmitted with minor variations.
In the meantime, an alarm bell will sound for Bondi & Co. who, taking advantage of the general inattention due to the tragic events of Abruzzo trying to pass off quietly in a series of rules remaking the disputed Hadopi, forgetting perhaps that is just around the corner a "verification" by the electorate.
Gag to Internet: The European Union rejected the "doctrine Sarkozy"
http://www.zeusnews.com/index.php3?ar=stampa&cod=8282
The European Union rejected the "doctrine Sarkozy"
The European Parliament has removed the "Telecom package" proposals by France against p2p and for the processing of provider in cyberpolicemen.
[ZEUS News - http://www.zeusnews.com - 25-09-2008]
The Doctrine Sarkozy did not pass: there is no method of the three blows to the user, no change in the provider cyberpolicemen, no denial of rights of access to the Internet.
Telecom Package has been cleansed and purged of the most feared, thanks to a series of amendments put to safeguard the rights and freedoms of Internet users.
How many were asked, including by Jérémie Zimmermann la quadrature du net, MEPs have eliminated the rules that were supposed to put an end to peer to peer and fully rejected the proposal of France, which has the presidency of the European Union.
This is good news for all those who use p2p software sharing: this is not about defending the spread of illegal material, but to allow that users can use existing tools without being forced ISPs to monitor and no sanctions at all oversized compared to offenses, as he wanted Nicholas Sarkozy.
According to the French President, users who had illegally shared files should have been warned twice and then, if still repeat, hunted by the Network
The task of monitoring it would have been for the providers, the police turned into the Net: they should keep the traffic data generated by their customers and collaborate actively in the hunt sharer.
All this will no longer be possible and, more importantly still, before it can impose sanctions on someone who violates the rules would require the order of a judge, and only those institutions can do, not the provider.
Moreover, the punishment should be proportionate to offenses, not to deprive anyone of access to the Internet just because they shared an mp3, as some had wanted.
The credit for having convinced the Parliament to decide in this sense is also the rapporteur Catherine Trautmann, that mail addressed to the MEPs defined access to the network a fundamental right of individuals: No one can be private without the decision of the courts .
The doctrine Sarkozy will return to life again later? Possible and perhaps probable, but it is very difficult to happen before the end of the presidency of France (the end of this year), a country that as you can guess, more than any other pressed for approval.
In 2009 the presidency of the European Union will move to Sweden, which has already made it known to have much more to be dealt.
The European Union rejected the "doctrine Sarkozy"
The European Parliament has removed the "Telecom package" proposals by France against p2p and for the processing of provider in cyberpolicemen.
[ZEUS News - http://www.zeusnews.com - 25-09-2008]
The Doctrine Sarkozy did not pass: there is no method of the three blows to the user, no change in the provider cyberpolicemen, no denial of rights of access to the Internet.
Telecom Package has been cleansed and purged of the most feared, thanks to a series of amendments put to safeguard the rights and freedoms of Internet users.
How many were asked, including by Jérémie Zimmermann la quadrature du net, MEPs have eliminated the rules that were supposed to put an end to peer to peer and fully rejected the proposal of France, which has the presidency of the European Union.
This is good news for all those who use p2p software sharing: this is not about defending the spread of illegal material, but to allow that users can use existing tools without being forced ISPs to monitor and no sanctions at all oversized compared to offenses, as he wanted Nicholas Sarkozy.
According to the French President, users who had illegally shared files should have been warned twice and then, if still repeat, hunted by the Network
The task of monitoring it would have been for the providers, the police turned into the Net: they should keep the traffic data generated by their customers and collaborate actively in the hunt sharer.
All this will no longer be possible and, more importantly still, before it can impose sanctions on someone who violates the rules would require the order of a judge, and only those institutions can do, not the provider.
Moreover, the punishment should be proportionate to offenses, not to deprive anyone of access to the Internet just because they shared an mp3, as some had wanted.
The credit for having convinced the Parliament to decide in this sense is also the rapporteur Catherine Trautmann, that mail addressed to the MEPs defined access to the network a fundamental right of individuals: No one can be private without the decision of the courts .
that tremble with rage, in addition to the French President, and will be the major industry associations, which were to have a free hand in the spying and depriving them of surfers connecting to the first mention of use of p2p.
The doctrine Sarkozy will return to life again later? Possible and perhaps probable, but it is very difficult to happen before the end of the presidency of France (the end of this year), a country that as you can guess, more than any other pressed for approval.
In 2009 the presidency of the European Union will move to Sweden, which has already made it known to have much more to be dealt.
Gag to Internet: The National Assembly rejects the anti-piracy law
http://www.zeusnews.com/index.php3?ar=stampa&cod=10035
The National Assembly rejects the anti-piracy law
Surprisingly, the Lower House of Parliament rejected the French draft law that would have introduced the "doctrine of the three blows."
[ZEUS News - http://www.zeusnews.com - 09-04-2009]
Although the Senate had already given his approval and final approval by now seemed obvious - so much so that our Minister for Culture seems to have rushed to agree with colleagues overnight - the French National Assembly rejected the bill that would have introduced the "doctrine of the three blows" against the pirates.
What must have been only a formal vote has turned into a defeat for President Sarkozy and the government, which now can withdraw the law or organize a new reading of the text without reinforcements wanted by the Senate, the main reason the opposition by Assembly.
It is curious that the draft law on "Protection of Rights on the Internet" was rejected by 21 votes against and 15 in favor, a sign of how the vast majority of 577 members of the Lower House did not even want to attend and what was unpopular the proposal under discussion.
In any case, the draft law is not completely dead already in the coming weeks the Government would submit an amended version, on which the French Parliament will speak out.
The National Assembly rejects the anti-piracy law
Surprisingly, the Lower House of Parliament rejected the French draft law that would have introduced the "doctrine of the three blows."
[ZEUS News - http://www.zeusnews.com - 09-04-2009]
Although the Senate had already given his approval and final approval by now seemed obvious - so much so that our Minister for Culture seems to have rushed to agree with colleagues overnight - the French National Assembly rejected the bill that would have introduced the "doctrine of the three blows" against the pirates.
What must have been only a formal vote has turned into a defeat for President Sarkozy and the government, which now can withdraw the law or organize a new reading of the text without reinforcements wanted by the Senate, the main reason the opposition by Assembly.
It is curious that the draft law on "Protection of Rights on the Internet" was rejected by 21 votes against and 15 in favor, a sign of how the vast majority of 577 members of the Lower House did not even want to attend and what was unpopular the proposal under discussion.
In any case, the draft law is not completely dead already in the coming weeks the Government would submit an amended version, on which the French Parliament will speak out.
Gag to Internet: Cassinelli against the "doctrine of the three blows"
http://www.zeusnews.com/index.php3?ar=stampa&cod=10027
Cassinelli against the "doctrine of the three blows"
Bondi Minister seems to want to follow the French example: the already known for the opposition to proposals for D'Alia and Carlucci Calls clarity and encourages users to come forward.
[ZEUS News - http://www.zeusnews.com - 09-04-2009]
They are chasing after the few clear voices: it seems that the Minister for Culture Sandro Bondi, enthused after the French law on the doctrine of the three blows, has signed with colleagues overnight an agreement to combat piracy.
Bondi would have expressed the intention to adopt the same legislation also by us, by creating a French equivalent of Hadopi and putting in place the structure necessary to controls on Internet users.
All of these "maybe" they arrived to the ears by Roberto Cassinelli, known as seemingly the only reasonable to seek solutions to the problems facing the network censors to initiatives proposed by my colleagues.
"Concerned by these revelations by journalists, I submitted a question to the Minister to determine if this is true" - he wrote on his blog Mr Cassinelli - "stressing that the French law contrasts a previous decision of the European Parliament, and certain inviolable rights in Italy that are guaranteed by the Constitution and the Code for the protection of personal data. "
With this observation, Cassinelli has stressed that France has moved independently and contrary to what is established by the European Union (which in practice does not seem to even embarrass our government) and how to take those first steps might be appropriate to consult laws already exist, from the Constitution.
Italy imposed a law similar to the French lead to at least three consequences: first, it would set an excessive penalty and fine imposed in a wrong way, without the involvement a court.
Then, based on IP addresses to determine who is violating the copyright law would attract more users to compromise smaliziato connections of others to avoid being discovered.
Finally, the Guarantor for the privacy has already been established - in March last year - which is forbidden to monitor private Internet traffic of others.
Cassinelli want clarity and with him all the Internet users in Italy, which honourable invite to come forward, saying his opinion clearly.
Cassinelli against the "doctrine of the three blows"
Bondi Minister seems to want to follow the French example: the already known for the opposition to proposals for D'Alia and Carlucci Calls clarity and encourages users to come forward.
[ZEUS News - http://www.zeusnews.com - 09-04-2009]
They are chasing after the few clear voices: it seems that the Minister for Culture Sandro Bondi, enthused after the French law on the doctrine of the three blows, has signed with colleagues overnight an agreement to combat piracy.
Bondi would have expressed the intention to adopt the same legislation also by us, by creating a French equivalent of Hadopi and putting in place the structure necessary to controls on Internet users.
All of these "maybe" they arrived to the ears by Roberto Cassinelli, known as seemingly the only reasonable to seek solutions to the problems facing the network censors to initiatives proposed by my colleagues.
"Concerned by these revelations by journalists, I submitted a question to the Minister to determine if this is true" - he wrote on his blog Mr Cassinelli - "stressing that the French law contrasts a previous decision of the European Parliament, and certain inviolable rights in Italy that are guaranteed by the Constitution and the Code for the protection of personal data. "
With this observation, Cassinelli has stressed that France has moved independently and contrary to what is established by the European Union (which in practice does not seem to even embarrass our government) and how to take those first steps might be appropriate to consult laws already exist, from the Constitution.
Italy imposed a law similar to the French lead to at least three consequences: first, it would set an excessive penalty and fine imposed in a wrong way, without the involvement a court.
Then, based on IP addresses to determine who is violating the copyright law would attract more users to compromise smaliziato connections of others to avoid being discovered.
Finally, the Guarantor for the privacy has already been established - in March last year - which is forbidden to monitor private Internet traffic of others.
Cassinelli want clarity and with him all the Internet users in Italy, which honourable invite to come forward, saying his opinion clearly.
Gag to Internet: Digital: rights and Internet rules & Co A real defense of the user, without putting the gag on the free flow of information
By using the internet phone call with the phone, Facebook following the use of satellite tv on: Digital is now become a daily bread for many Italians.
A new market has been stated in a very short space of time.
A market with high technology, but also marked by the usual Old problems: firstly the lack of competition and Transparency.
And the lack of attention to user interests.
All compounded in many cases by the absence of rules, including Because of laws that are struggling to keep pace with the continuing Changes that characterize the world digitally.
ON 23 APRIL 2009 WE DISCUSS IN ROME
As part of our campaign "Law Network", we have organized a conference for April 23 in Rome, the Hall of Columns of the House of Representatives (from 09:30 am to 05:00 pm).
The theme is broad: the aim is to analyze, with all the Stakeholders, the most
important current issues related to A proper and efficient development of the digital market.
Will devote particular attention to the rights and obligations of those who Handles both of the person using the network.
We need to safeguard the world from internet abuse (violation Of privacy, defamation) but did not put the gag Free flow of information (also see the video on our Site).
Among others, joined our meeting European Commissioner For consumers Meglena Kuneva.
NEW LAWS FOR THE NETWORK
The conference marks the launch of our campaign for better Regulation of the
Internet world.
At this point, one of the hot spots in question concerns Piracy in the digital age:
remind you about our site You can sign the petition so that the discussion on the new Law to be heard all parties involved, including Associations representing consumers.
Among the other topics that face our country: the Implementation of next generation networks of fiber optics, the Problem of the digital divide (ie the areas not reached by Broadband), the spread of the social network and the initial phase of Switch to digital TV, for now characterized more by shadows By lighting.
Our campaign http://www.altroconsumo.it/dirittodirete
Page 4 and 5 of Altroconsumo number 225 April 2009
A new market has been stated in a very short space of time.
A market with high technology, but also marked by the usual Old problems: firstly the lack of competition and Transparency.
And the lack of attention to user interests.
All compounded in many cases by the absence of rules, including Because of laws that are struggling to keep pace with the continuing Changes that characterize the world digitally.
ON 23 APRIL 2009 WE DISCUSS IN ROME
As part of our campaign "Law Network", we have organized a conference for April 23 in Rome, the Hall of Columns of the House of Representatives (from 09:30 am to 05:00 pm).
The theme is broad: the aim is to analyze, with all the Stakeholders, the most
important current issues related to A proper and efficient development of the digital market.
Will devote particular attention to the rights and obligations of those who Handles both of the person using the network.
We need to safeguard the world from internet abuse (violation Of privacy, defamation) but did not put the gag Free flow of information (also see the video on our Site).
Among others, joined our meeting European Commissioner For consumers Meglena Kuneva.
NEW LAWS FOR THE NETWORK
The conference marks the launch of our campaign for better Regulation of the
Internet world.
At this point, one of the hot spots in question concerns Piracy in the digital age:
remind you about our site You can sign the petition so that the discussion on the new Law to be heard all parties involved, including Associations representing consumers.
Among the other topics that face our country: the Implementation of next generation networks of fiber optics, the Problem of the digital divide (ie the areas not reached by Broadband), the spread of the social network and the initial phase of Switch to digital TV, for now characterized more by shadows By lighting.
Our campaign http://www.altroconsumo.it/
Page 4 and 5 of Altroconsumo number 225 April 2009
giovedì 9 aprile 2009
Gag to Internet: The law against peer to peer half the Internet traffic
http://www.zeusnews.com/index.php3?ar=stampa&cod=9983
The law against peer to peer half the Internet traffic
From what IPRED came into force, the bandwidth consumption in Sweden fell by 40%. Concerned about the providers.
[ZEUS News - http://www.zeusnews.com - 06-04-2009]
On one side is the confirmation of what some 'all suspected: much of the network traffic is generated by the peer to peer. On the other hand is a worrying news for the providers that if the trend continues, will have high-speed lines but unused.
The heart of the matter is the anti-piracy law recently came into force in Sweden, IPRED http://www.zeusnews.com/index.php3? ar=print&cod=9881 (Intellectual Property Rights Enforcement Directive), which allows rights owners to be violated by Isp deliver the data of the holders of IP addresses used condivisori.
The immediate effect of this law has been a decline of 40% of Internet traffic, increased from 160/180 Gbit per second to 90/100 Gbit per second.
"If things go on like this" comments Jon Kerlung, CEO of one of the largest ISPs in Sweden, "the expensive infrastructure that we have created will become useless."
In Sweden, most people will have connections to 8 Mbits per second and are already on trial at 40 Gbit connections per second: this step will be unnecessary.
According to a representative of the Party of Pirates, Christian Engstrom, but this is a temporary situation: when users discover how to work around IPRED (by making anonymous and not traceable on business) the bandwidth consumption will come back on the usual level, with great joy of Isp .
The law against peer to peer half the Internet traffic
From what IPRED came into force, the bandwidth consumption in Sweden fell by 40%. Concerned about the providers.
[ZEUS News - http://www.zeusnews.com - 06-04-2009]
On one side is the confirmation of what some 'all suspected: much of the network traffic is generated by the peer to peer. On the other hand is a worrying news for the providers that if the trend continues, will have high-speed lines but unused.
The heart of the matter is the anti-piracy law recently came into force in Sweden, IPRED http://www.zeusnews.com/index.php3? ar=print&cod=9881 (Intellectual Property Rights Enforcement Directive), which allows rights owners to be violated by Isp deliver the data of the holders of IP addresses used condivisori.
The immediate effect of this law has been a decline of 40% of Internet traffic, increased from 160/180 Gbit per second to 90/100 Gbit per second.
"If things go on like this" comments Jon Kerlung, CEO of one of the largest ISPs in Sweden, "the expensive infrastructure that we have created will become useless."
In Sweden, most people will have connections to 8 Mbits per second and are already on trial at 40 Gbit connections per second: this step will be unnecessary.
According to a representative of the Party of Pirates, Christian Engstrom, but this is a temporary situation: when users discover how to work around IPRED (by making anonymous and not traceable on business) the bandwidth consumption will come back on the usual level, with great joy of Isp .
mercoledì 8 aprile 2009
Gag to Internet: France adopted the doctrine of the three blows
http://www.zeusnews.com/index.php3?ar=stampa&cod=9973
France adopted the doctrine of the three blows
Who will be surprises to share three times copyrighted material will be disconnected from the Internet.
[ZEUS News - http://www.zeusnews.com - 03-04-2009]
In the end, despite the concerns of the European Union, http://www.zeusnews.com/index.php3?ar=print&cod=8610 France continued its own way and adopted the law that requires the cutting of the connection to "pirates".
Formally, the final approval is expected by April 9 but, although the opponents speak clearly of the "attack on public and individual freedoms", the outcome of the vote appears assured.
Users caught sharing copyrighted content will be disconnected from the Internet for a minimum period of two months in the sole discretion dell'Hadopi, http://www.zeusnews.com/index.php3?ar=stampa&cod=8302 , the Authority established specifically for this purpose.
In his magnanimity, the Hadopi not immediately caccerà pirates by the Network will identify violations committed via email and registered, those who come to the third signal will trigger the cut line is the famous doctrine of the three slaps.
Who will oppose the disconnection may agree to pay a sort of "fine" yet to be determined but will still be without Internet for a month.
It is estimated that this will joke a cost of 70 million euros a year, which will be spent to monitor the Internet and send 3000 recommended to 10,000 emails per day.
But the defense of the interests of the majors - pardon, the law - that is, any digit.
http://www.zeusnews.com/index.php3?ar=stampa&cod=8610
The French Senate adopted the doctrine Sarkozy
Despite the European Union had rejected the policy smacks of the three will probably be soon legal in France: who is surprised by three times to download illegally will be disconnected from the Internet.
[ZEUS News - http://www.zeusnews.com - 03-11-2008]
The beauty of the European Union is this: whatever decision of Parliament, there will always be a member state that will continue to do what they want.
In this case, the decision dell'Europarlamento is one that has rejected the doctrine Sarkozy. http://www.zeusnews.com/index.php3?ar=stampa&cod=8282 The was stubborn, that he decided to endorse it, is of course France.
In practice, the bill supported by the French president is expected that those caught downloading copyrighted material is excluded from the Internet is the so-called method of the three slaps. http://www.zeusnews.com/index.php3?ar=stampa&cod=8192
To accomplish the work of control and repression, then, not a court - as would seem logical - but Hadopi, an authority in theory independent but essentially to the majors, which would give a sort of "military wing" to enforce their will.
Despite all the sensible people these measures appear disproportionate to the offenses, although the Hadopi can even be accused of unconstitutionality (as he pointed out the association of consumers UFC-Que Choisir) and in defiance of any decision of the European Union, the Senate French thought well to give its approval with anything but a narrow majority: 297 in favor versus 15 against.
Now the question goes to the National Assembly, but if the numbers of the Senate want to say something, even the discussion of January will bring the same result. If and when the law passes, how many will be parents that will prohibit access to the network because their children have downloaded three films and three songs?
The only hope for the French, who would be subjected to a control not maintained by the state but by private companies with interests to be protected and that they fear the most powerful weapon, the action seems to be that UFC-Que Choisir has notified the European Union.
France adopted the doctrine of the three blows
Who will be surprises to share three times copyrighted material will be disconnected from the Internet.
[ZEUS News - http://www.zeusnews.com - 03-04-2009]
In the end, despite the concerns of the European Union, http://www.zeusnews.com/index.php3?ar=print&cod=8610 France continued its own way and adopted the law that requires the cutting of the connection to "pirates".
Formally, the final approval is expected by April 9 but, although the opponents speak clearly of the "attack on public and individual freedoms", the outcome of the vote appears assured.
Users caught sharing copyrighted content will be disconnected from the Internet for a minimum period of two months in the sole discretion dell'Hadopi, http://www.zeusnews.com/index.php3?ar=stampa&cod=8302 , the Authority established specifically for this purpose.
In his magnanimity, the Hadopi not immediately caccerà pirates by the Network will identify violations committed via email and registered, those who come to the third signal will trigger the cut line is the famous doctrine of the three slaps.
Who will oppose the disconnection may agree to pay a sort of "fine" yet to be determined but will still be without Internet for a month.
It is estimated that this will joke a cost of 70 million euros a year, which will be spent to monitor the Internet and send 3000 recommended to 10,000 emails per day.
But the defense of the interests of the majors - pardon, the law - that is, any digit.
http://www.zeusnews.com/index.php3?ar=stampa&cod=8610
The French Senate adopted the doctrine Sarkozy
Despite the European Union had rejected the policy smacks of the three will probably be soon legal in France: who is surprised by three times to download illegally will be disconnected from the Internet.
[ZEUS News - http://www.zeusnews.com - 03-11-2008]
The beauty of the European Union is this: whatever decision of Parliament, there will always be a member state that will continue to do what they want.
In this case, the decision dell'Europarlamento is one that has rejected the doctrine Sarkozy. http://www.zeusnews.com/index.php3?ar=stampa&cod=8282 The was stubborn, that he decided to endorse it, is of course France.
In practice, the bill supported by the French president is expected that those caught downloading copyrighted material is excluded from the Internet is the so-called method of the three slaps. http://www.zeusnews.com/index.php3?ar=stampa&cod=8192
To accomplish the work of control and repression, then, not a court - as would seem logical - but Hadopi, an authority in theory independent but essentially to the majors, which would give a sort of "military wing" to enforce their will.
Despite all the sensible people these measures appear disproportionate to the offenses, although the Hadopi can even be accused of unconstitutionality (as he pointed out the association of consumers UFC-Que Choisir) and in defiance of any decision of the European Union, the Senate French thought well to give its approval with anything but a narrow majority: 297 in favor versus 15 against.
Now the question goes to the National Assembly, but if the numbers of the Senate want to say something, even the discussion of January will bring the same result. If and when the law passes, how many will be parents that will prohibit access to the network because their children have downloaded three films and three songs?
The only hope for the French, who would be subjected to a control not maintained by the state but by private companies with interests to be protected and that they fear the most powerful weapon, the action seems to be that UFC-Que Choisir has notified the European Union.
martedì 17 marzo 2009
Gag to Internet: Minister Andrea Ronchi under arm with neo-NAZI
http://www.repubblica.it/2009/03/sezioni/politica/neofascisti/lettera-pd/lettera-pd.html?rss
hard position of the Democrats and Ronchi Di Pietro and La Russa in hand with members of extreme right.
"The premier is in the House" Ministers in hand with neo-Nazi
Il Pd: "Berlusconi clarifying"
Ministers in hand with neo-Nazi Il Pd: "Berlusconi clarifying"
Minister Ronchi with the founder of "Black Heart"
ROME - The ministers Andrea Ronchi and Ignazio La Russa posing with the neo-Nazis, as written by Paul Berizzi in his book "Black Bands" and reported on the Republic, have opened another front polemic between the government and opposition.
The PD has sent a letter to Berlusconi to ask for explanations, while Antonio Di Pietro wants the premier report in Parliament.
While the Minister La Russa replied, "The picture I portrays published by a neo-fascist, but with a carabiniere.
The views expressed are harsh. Members Emanuele Fiano Misiani and Antonio, along with vice-presidents of the Group of Pd in the House, Marina Sereni Gianclaudio and Bresse, ask questions later, as written, he saw with astonishment and dismay in an article appearing on photographs of Ministers Republic La Russa and Ronchi with representatives of the world of extremism and neo-Nazi neo-fascist Italian, as well as an alleged belonged to the world of drug dealing connected to n'drangheta ".
"We would like to know - we read in the letter - if those hugs were random or fruit instead of attending a friendship and more consolidated."
"Why - read the letter - in this case, we would be faced with unacceptable friendships authoritative representatives of the government with political representatives of a world of the extreme right extraparliamentary inclinations whose neo-fascist, racist and violent were more times covered by the news of recent years. "
"It would be impossible - say from the Pd - accept that a Minister of the Republic will face photographed smiling next to the leader of an extreme right-wing circle in the magazine on the Internet showed only a year ago a shameful cover that mocking the tragedy of the Shoah and of the extermination camp of Auschwitz. "
"So for these reasons - Democrats contend the leaders - we expect denials by the parties concerned and by the President of the Council on Berlusconi persistence of old ties and intolerable that we thought finally delivered to the past."
For its part, Antonio Di Pietro also crush your hand. "How volevasi prove: the fascists and the fascists had remained.
There is a return of fascism, whose representatives, it is now proven the test, sit too long in the institutions and the reappearance of those dark periods of our history," said the leader of Idv= Italia dei Valori = Italy of Values.
'It is incredible - he explains - what is happening in our country: you erase the memory, the democratic values to rehabilitate fascism and those groups who advocate apartheid and incitement to racial hatred.
Berizzi In the book are the names and surnames of comparing, of the sponsors of these dangerous characters who occupy institutional roles throughout the peninsula.
It's good that these gentlemen are brought into the open, tell the people whether they work to affirm the values plotted by our fathers constituents or to resurrect a new fascism. Many backed the players in this anti-movement: ministers, parliamentarians, mayors, aldermen. "
"It is the same - concluded Di Pietro - who feed on the momentum of the input of black, formed from pseudopartiti, whose symbols are Celtic crosses, bundles Littoria, swastika, flags of the Third Reich. Dell'Italia dei Valori We ask the President of the Council to come to Parliament to explain what happens and we are made full light on this murky affair involving representatives of government and institutional. "
The Russian, however, the minister replied, "There's a shot of the scene, the person with which I was portrayed and which was published this morning by the Republic is not Crisafulli carabiniere but a man called Nicholas Giuliano. Now I expect apologies ".
(17 March 2009)
Gianpiero D'Alia she was concerned about who to praise Internet personalities dishonest arguing PROVENZANO, the Brigate Rosse= red brigades, Riina ... I seem to hear that instead of the Apology of Crime was committed by Minister Andrea Ronchi in hand with neo-Nazi, now let me know if you have something to say against Minister Andrea Ronchi or if shut up and will pretend that nothing has happened, hoping that Italians soon forget what happened.
I hope that the law should punish the Minister Andrea Ronchi for apology of crime, since the Nazis rake Rome and many other European cities, and not, not only wiping JEWS, but free thinkers, anarchists, COMUNISTI, Pacific, GAY .... and now they want to do with his law D'Alia?
hard position of the Democrats and Ronchi Di Pietro and La Russa in hand with members of extreme right.
"The premier is in the House" Ministers in hand with neo-Nazi
Il Pd: "Berlusconi clarifying"
Ministers in hand with neo-Nazi Il Pd: "Berlusconi clarifying"
Minister Ronchi with the founder of "Black Heart"
ROME - The ministers Andrea Ronchi and Ignazio La Russa posing with the neo-Nazis, as written by Paul Berizzi in his book "Black Bands" and reported on the Republic, have opened another front polemic between the government and opposition.
The PD has sent a letter to Berlusconi to ask for explanations, while Antonio Di Pietro wants the premier report in Parliament.
While the Minister La Russa replied, "The picture I portrays published by a neo-fascist, but with a carabiniere.
The views expressed are harsh. Members Emanuele Fiano Misiani and Antonio, along with vice-presidents of the Group of Pd in the House, Marina Sereni Gianclaudio and Bresse, ask questions later, as written, he saw with astonishment and dismay in an article appearing on photographs of Ministers Republic La Russa and Ronchi with representatives of the world of extremism and neo-Nazi neo-fascist Italian, as well as an alleged belonged to the world of drug dealing connected to n'drangheta ".
"We would like to know - we read in the letter - if those hugs were random or fruit instead of attending a friendship and more consolidated."
"Why - read the letter - in this case, we would be faced with unacceptable friendships authoritative representatives of the government with political representatives of a world of the extreme right extraparliamentary inclinations whose neo-fascist, racist and violent were more times covered by the news of recent years. "
"It would be impossible - say from the Pd - accept that a Minister of the Republic will face photographed smiling next to the leader of an extreme right-wing circle in the magazine on the Internet showed only a year ago a shameful cover that mocking the tragedy of the Shoah and of the extermination camp of Auschwitz. "
"So for these reasons - Democrats contend the leaders - we expect denials by the parties concerned and by the President of the Council on Berlusconi persistence of old ties and intolerable that we thought finally delivered to the past."
For its part, Antonio Di Pietro also crush your hand. "How volevasi prove: the fascists and the fascists had remained.
There is a return of fascism, whose representatives, it is now proven the test, sit too long in the institutions and the reappearance of those dark periods of our history," said the leader of Idv= Italia dei Valori = Italy of Values.
'It is incredible - he explains - what is happening in our country: you erase the memory, the democratic values to rehabilitate fascism and those groups who advocate apartheid and incitement to racial hatred.
Berizzi In the book are the names and surnames of comparing, of the sponsors of these dangerous characters who occupy institutional roles throughout the peninsula.
It's good that these gentlemen are brought into the open, tell the people whether they work to affirm the values plotted by our fathers constituents or to resurrect a new fascism. Many backed the players in this anti-movement: ministers, parliamentarians, mayors, aldermen. "
"It is the same - concluded Di Pietro - who feed on the momentum of the input of black, formed from pseudopartiti, whose symbols are Celtic crosses, bundles Littoria, swastika, flags of the Third Reich. Dell'Italia dei Valori We ask the President of the Council to come to Parliament to explain what happens and we are made full light on this murky affair involving representatives of government and institutional. "
The Russian, however, the minister replied, "There's a shot of the scene, the person with which I was portrayed and which was published this morning by the Republic is not Crisafulli carabiniere but a man called Nicholas Giuliano. Now I expect apologies ".
(17 March 2009)
Gianpiero D'Alia she was concerned about who to praise Internet personalities dishonest arguing PROVENZANO, the Brigate Rosse= red brigades, Riina ... I seem to hear that instead of the Apology of Crime was committed by Minister Andrea Ronchi in hand with neo-Nazi, now let me know if you have something to say against Minister Andrea Ronchi or if shut up and will pretend that nothing has happened, hoping that Italians soon forget what happened.
I hope that the law should punish the Minister Andrea Ronchi for apology of crime, since the Nazis rake Rome and many other European cities, and not, not only wiping JEWS, but free thinkers, anarchists, COMUNISTI, Pacific, GAY .... and now they want to do with his law D'Alia?
venerdì 13 marzo 2009
Gag to Internet: Franco Riccardo Levi
12 November 2008 Free Blogger
Mouse Gigio is worse than a spyware, a malware is a virus that insidiosissimo transforms everything it touches into a Walterloo.
His charge of Pdmenoelle, Franco "Ricardo" Levi filed with the House Committee on Culture, with some touches worthy of Pol Pot, the notorious Levi/Prodi
Also called the law "kill-blogger".
Law that goes renamed Levi/Veltroni thanks to the new terms
In essence:
-each blog is treated as an editorial product every blog that publishes the Google Adsense or banners can be answerable to the Revenue
Every blog must-subscribe to ROC (Registry of Operators of Communication)-every blog is subject to the rules on liability related to crimes in the press
-any blog that does not form part of the ROC can be denounced for the crime of "Illegal Press": two years' imprisonment and economic sanctions.
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giovedì 12 marzo 2009
Gag to Internet: Gabriella Carlucci
After Levi , Cassinelli , D'Alia came even Gabriella Carlucci.
The network must be supervised by any law, with every scrap parliamentary human.
The choice of who should make the proposed law is not accidental.
Fewer know of the Internet, the better. If you do not know anything, even better.
While discussing with an informed person is an exercise as possible, do it with an idiot is not recommended.
From outside the viewer sees two idiots who raves.
Each week a new attempt to muzzle, normalized to eliminate the E Network, each week, we should rebut, explain, demonstrate, compare, condemn.
Excuse me the vulgarity, but they have broken the cock.
Italy has millions of unemployed and our employees are concerned about the gold to apply censorship to the existing information tool.
Paid by us, not with laws that are neither in heaven nor on earth.
Gabry, the less intelligent, sisters, and for this Carlucci elected in PDL, wants to forbid anyone to enter in an anonymous online content in any form.
We need to discuss with this ensemble of a few neurons and cellulitis ?
By D'Alia who wants to close the sites of authority by the Ministry of Interior for alleged crimes without a trial of the judiciary ?
By Carlucci involved the interests of the corporation ?
A structure of government with Mediaset nanotelevisiva that landslide on him day after day ?
Confalonieri of citing YouTube for 500 million euros ?
Who writes on a wall is not detectable, who writes on the Net almost always is. Your IP address is.
In most cases, the Police Post is able to identify him. These are raving.
Pisanu law's law calls for the identity card to those who connect to Wi Fi.
In the parks of New York, London, Paris, Madrid you connect to dozens of Wi Fi networks from a bench or lying on a lawn.
We are the only nation in the world that has managed to reverse the access to the Internet.
No one was capable of so much.
Neither China or Birmania.
The number of households that are connected in Italy has declined over the last year.
Thousands of municipalities does not arrive the Adsl or, if present, has the speed of a pair.
We have invested billions in the terrestrial digital, a technology dead, instead of spreading the Internet in schools and in public administration.
If these laws pass, I shall turn to Europe, to denounce the violation of civil rights.
I will not stop.
Do not stop there.
Them not to give up never (but him?).
mercoledì 11 marzo 2009
Gag to Internet: Chaos Computer Club
Chaos Computer Club: deletion of problematic content only protects the offender http://www.ccc.de/press/releases/2009/20090212/?language=en
February 12, 2009 (presse@ccc.de)
The Federal Parliament's Scientific Service confirms it has misgivings under constitutional law regarding German Federal Minister for Family Affairs and Christian Democratic Union member of the German Federal Parliment, Ursula Gertrud von der Leyen's, proposal to block objectionable internet content.
The Federal Parliament's Scientific Service has concluded in a study [1] that the bans on ISPs based on Federal Office of Criminal Investigation (BKA) lists proposed by Family Minister Mrs von der Leyen are open to question under German constitutional law.
The Chaos Computer Club (CCC) feels vindicated in its opinion [2] on internet censorship issued at the end of November 2008. However, the investigation conducted by the Federal Parliaments' Scientific Service concentrates on the legal conformity and constitutionality of the bans.
Nevertheless, the CCC remains of the opinion that actually prosecuting the culprits is getting far too little attention in the current debate.
As evidence of actual crimes on children is involved in so-called "objectionable content", this should be the actual focus of state action.
"Blocking objectionable content by bans, as proposed by the minister would mean that the actions and culprits would escape both notice and prosecution.
The state's shortcomings in prosecuting these offences are nevertheless not resolved by blocking viewing of the crimes", CCC spokesman Andy Müller-Maguhn said about Mrs von der Leyen's proposal.
A statistical analysis of filter lists [3] from Switzerland, Denmark, Finland and Sweden revealed that more than 96% of the servers they banned are located in western countries, particularly the USA, Australia, Canada and the Netherlands.
It is quite implausible that these servers and their operators cannot be shut down and prosecuted by means of international cooperation by law enforcement authorities.
There is clearly a lack of political will here to establish appropriate priorities and to make the necessary resources available.
The reasoning that bars to access must be implemented since the culprits are not being apprehended does not even match the facts.
It has been known for a long time that the any 'barriers' put up can be
evaded by the simplest means.
"As servers only appear on the BKA blacklists if they are known to investigators, there is no excuse for law enforcement agencies not taking action against the operators. However, appropriate efforts at international cooperation and effective prosecution are not even being looked at as policies", said CCC spokesman Andy Müller-Maguhn.
So instead of taking effective and productive measures and getting to the root of the trouble, an attempt is being made to pressurise ISPs into creating a censorship infrastructure.
Once the technology for content censorship is installed, it will doubtless be used for other interests, such as those of the music industry.
A barrier that opens the way to a state-censored internet will be crossed here for no objective reasons.
Examples from the Scandinavian countries so highly praised by Mrs von der Leyen show that blocking filters are already being misused to censor discussion of the filters themselves.
[4] In this instance objective critics of blocking systems have been defamed
en bloc as friends of child pornography to prevent an objective discussion.
Similar events can already be observed in the debate in Germany.
Instead of back-door internet censorship, the Chaos Computer Club
consequently demands that effective measures are finally taken against
child sexual abuse and its associated trade.
Summing up the CCC's concerns, CCC spokesman Müller-Maguhn said: "The
internet reflects real social problems that must be resolved and not swept under the carpet.
The legal bases for prosecuting offenders are already in place; what is lacking is a cohesive course of action, including the required provision of staff for law enforcement authorities.
The fact they are trying to give the appearance of solving the problem by banning and blocking objectionable content is pure populism.
The public is being mislead with the aim of establishing a censorship infrastructure that is unfit for a democracy".
http://www.ccc.de/press/releases/2009/20090212/?language=en
February 12, 2009 (presse@ccc.de)
The Federal Parliament's Scientific Service confirms it has misgivings under constitutional law regarding German Federal Minister for Family Affairs and Christian Democratic Union member of the German Federal Parliment, Ursula Gertrud von der Leyen's, proposal to block objectionable internet content.
The Federal Parliament's Scientific Service has concluded in a study [1] that the bans on ISPs based on Federal Office of Criminal Investigation (BKA) lists proposed by Family Minister Mrs von der Leyen are open to question under German constitutional law.
The Chaos Computer Club (CCC) feels vindicated in its opinion [2] on internet censorship issued at the end of November 2008. However, the investigation conducted by the Federal Parliaments' Scientific Service concentrates on the legal conformity and constitutionality of the bans.
Nevertheless, the CCC remains of the opinion that actually prosecuting the culprits is getting far too little attention in the current debate.
As evidence of actual crimes on children is involved in so-called "objectionable content", this should be the actual focus of state action.
"Blocking objectionable content by bans, as proposed by the minister would mean that the actions and culprits would escape both notice and prosecution.
The state's shortcomings in prosecuting these offences are nevertheless not resolved by blocking viewing of the crimes", CCC spokesman Andy Müller-Maguhn said about Mrs von der Leyen's proposal.
A statistical analysis of filter lists [3] from Switzerland, Denmark, Finland and Sweden revealed that more than 96% of the servers they banned are located in western countries, particularly the USA, Australia, Canada and the Netherlands.
It is quite implausible that these servers and their operators cannot be shut down and prosecuted by means of international cooperation by law enforcement authorities.
There is clearly a lack of political will here to establish appropriate priorities and to make the necessary resources available.
The reasoning that bars to access must be implemented since the culprits are not being apprehended does not even match the facts.
It has been known for a long time that the any 'barriers' put up can be
evaded by the simplest means.
"As servers only appear on the BKA blacklists if they are known to investigators, there is no excuse for law enforcement agencies not taking action against the operators. However, appropriate efforts at international cooperation and effective prosecution are not even being looked at as policies", said CCC spokesman Andy Müller-Maguhn.
So instead of taking effective and productive measures and getting to the root of the trouble, an attempt is being made to pressurise ISPs into creating a censorship infrastructure.
Once the technology for content censorship is installed, it will doubtless be used for other interests, such as those of the music industry.
A barrier that opens the way to a state-censored internet will be crossed here for no objective reasons.
Examples from the Scandinavian countries so highly praised by Mrs von der Leyen show that blocking filters are already being misused to censor discussion of the filters themselves.
[4] In this instance objective critics of blocking systems have been defamed
en bloc as friends of child pornography to prevent an objective discussion.
Similar events can already be observed in the debate in Germany.
Instead of back-door internet censorship, the Chaos Computer Club
consequently demands that effective measures are finally taken against
child sexual abuse and its associated trade.
Summing up the CCC's concerns, CCC spokesman Müller-Maguhn said: "The
internet reflects real social problems that must be resolved and not swept under the carpet.
The legal bases for prosecuting offenders are already in place; what is lacking is a cohesive course of action, including the required provision of staff for law enforcement authorities.
The fact they are trying to give the appearance of solving the problem by banning and blocking objectionable content is pure populism.
The public is being mislead with the aim of establishing a censorship infrastructure that is unfit for a democracy".
http://www.ccc.de/press/
venerdì 6 marzo 2009
Gag to Internet: politicians and dishonests
Not long ago I wrote to the European Union with the hope of having an answer.
I am very sorry for not being heard as a citizen who is entitled to express their free thought, without someone decides what can be said or not said on the Internet.
Dall'intervista of Alexander the Gilioli sen. D'Alia published on "L'Espresso http://gilioli.blogautore.espresso.repubblica.it/2009/02/10/%C2%ABfacebook-e-youtube-o-obbediscono-o-li-oscuro%C2%BA
Gilioli: I wanted to talk about this amendment: First, explain the purpose and usefulness.
D'Alia: The amendment to Article 50 introduces a security package, which allows the Minister of the Interior, upon notice of the court which is a crime of incitement to criminal defense or offense, gives the Ministry of Interior the power to require that providers of Internet connectivity to use the tools to filter those sites or social network that contain, say, statements and anything else related to these cases of crime.
That is, it's a standard that is used to begin to intervene in the regulation of the Internet and this comes mainly from events that focused on Facebook, the appearance on the social network for groups to inneggianti Riina, Provenzano, the Red Brigades and so on.
And since there is no tool in making an immediate action if it deems such a course of crime, that is, if the judiciary is investigating, the Minister of Interior is involved with a purely precautionary in nature that serve to ensure that there is a proliferation of these sites or illegal these events on the network.
Of course, all this takes place with the possibility of recourse to the court by interested parties, but through a kind of contradictory with the operators of sites to which a notice is served to obscure, or delete those parts which are contrary to the positions mentioned.
A. Gilioli: But, Senator, let me interrupt you.
This claim is made that it is this: I read that right its amendment, no one speaks to cancel the parties, but to obscure the site.
Then they say: if there is a group on facebook that calls for Provenzano rather than other things, the effect of his amendment would delete the page, but obscure the entire site.
D'Alia: But excuse me: If the site does not pay to remove these subjects from the site, it is right that the site is obscured.
The Ministry warns the operator, the operator then has two options: either comply and then delete the site group, or do not comply.
If you do not comply it is an accomplice of those who praise Riina and Provenzano is therefore right that is obscured.
A. Gilioli: In YouTube, for example, there are several videos that may fall, perhaps, within the type that you expressed.
If YouTube does not delete the video is obscured the YouTube?
D'Alia: I will, of course.
A. Gilioli: Yet another case ...
D'Alia: Let me give an example: if one comes out on YouTube video, as it happened, and also there have been several controversies, in which four boys beat their contemporary disabile however, in this case we represent the presence of a crime is not that there is an apology: there is the direct or playing a film in which it is committing a criminal offense is right that a site is maintained?
I think not.
A. Gilioli: Another case: there is a debate online, on sites in the forums.
Among users of the forum may be that there is also that insults or threatens you.
She believes this is a type ...
D'Alia: If someone threatens me, the threat in reality or on the internet is always a crime.
A. Gilioli: Here are another kind: I am allegedly the author of a blog.
Within some of my blog, one of the commentators on my blog, I insult, threat.
I who am the blog master and then I think it is fair to leave my blog open to each entry, including those that threaten me and insult me, do not I hide these items.
Even in this case falls within the type?
D'Alia: Look, cover all those assumptions that are provided under the Criminal Code of the crimes of murder or incitement to disobey the law.
The crimes of apology of crime, which are provided by the Criminal Code or other provisions.
These are all assumptions that are brought to case illegal, who are already punished in the criminal code and that thus need to be sanctioned in all their manifestations.
It is not that changes if I make a stencils to say that Riina ...
A. Gilioli: Excuse me Senator, are we talking about the comments to a blog ...
D'Alia: Well, the comments to a blog is not that different: if in a comment to a blog I would say that the Red Brigades have done well to kill Moro, this is called apology of crime.
What I do on the blog, with a telegram, a card, with a press release does not change:
Always it comes to crime and should be pursued, and should be pursued if the one who makes it complicit publishing these disgraceful, including whether it is an operator of the Internet just be clear.
I think in this way.
A. Gilioli: Senta senator: you are a frequenter of the network?
D'Alia: Yes
A. Gilioli: On facebook there's going?
D'Alia: No, I go on facebook indigna just because I see on that site that you censurino mothers who breastfeed their children because it is considered an aesthetically offensive, unsightly, and then allow the various groups, such as "Homage to Cutolo, who is a relative of pentiti infamous confidants and please do not subscribe to this site dedicated to Cutolo.
I do not go there because this site that censure the mothers, as also correctly says Article 21, and allows these disgraceful is an unworthy, from my point of view.
With all due respect to those who enter.
A. Gilioli: Are you aware that if you close in YouTube and Facebook are Burma worse?
D'Alia: Look, I do not have to close or Facebook or YouTube: I am because Facebook and YouTube respect the victims of the Mafia, terrorism and rapes.
A. Gilioli: And if you do not comply ?
D'Alia: You do not comply can not have respect for the rule.
A. Gilioli: So are closed.
D'Alia: And is evident.
The government is preparing to gag Internet
With the safety package approved by the Senate, Berlusconi gives the Minister of Interior the power to close down Internet sites, filtering and fined heavily.
[05-02-2009]http://www.zeusnews.com/index.php3?ar=stampa&cod=9362
Berlusconi had proposed giving a constitution to the Internet world, certainly if the model is what is introducing in Italy is far ahead from the chills.
The safety package just approved by the Senate (still must return to the House) in fact provides that the Ministry may order the dimming of the websites on which commits the offense of apology or instigation to commit crimes. The ministry will request that there be a virus adapted.
The internet provider "disobedient" to pay a penalty from 50 thousand to 250 thousand euros.
In the text of ddl states that: "In case of proven or incitement apology, the Minister has with its interruption of the decree stated, ordering service providers to network connectivity to the Internet to use the appropriate tools filtering required for this purpose by applying financial penalties for breach. "
In practice the government will retain a power that only in totalitarian countries belonging to the police, while in democratic countries can be exercised only by the court and never by the government by administrative means.
The measure was included at the last minute thanks to an amendment by Senator Gianpiero D'Alia (UDC), which takes inspiration from the latest controversy about Facebook Groups in favor of the rapes or the Mafia.
Senator D'Alia commented: "This will give substance to our efforts to clean up the network, and in particular the social network Facebook kinds of emulates Riina, Provenzano, the Br, the rapists of Guidonia and all the other bad examples so far where it was given space irresponsibly. "
Muzzle the Internet, here's what the real purpose.
Perhaps we are not yet to Nazism against which Di Pietro shouts, but certainly fascism began in Italy in a way very similar.
Facebook responds to government censorship Italian
The response of the social network to the recent law that allows our government to block any site at will. [12-02-2009]
http://www.zeusnews.com/index.php3?ar=stampa&cod=9428
Senator Gianpiero D'Alia, "you said that those who praise people like Provenzano, Riina, the Red Brigades", it is guilty of Apology of Crime, then I thought of all those characters that are right in what Fini, Alemanno, Silvio Berlusconi, Santanchè, Storace, Mussolini and those of Forza Nuova.
All these are then guilty of Apology to Reato and thus calling for chased away from Parliament, and put in handcuffs for having praise to the Holocaust, squares or Italian armed with sticks and truncheons, seeking confrontation with the police and Silvio Berlusconi that praise by saying that Mangano was a hero.
This is a small part of those who so wish to enforce the laws, but are the first to have violated.
Block access to Facebook for all the fault of the presence of certain groups is questionable how to close an entire rail network due to some offensive graffiti in a single station: Facebook responds well to the proposal advanced by the government censors Italian.
The problem was born following the discovery of some groups to criminals praising recognized by Riina to the rapists of Guidonia.
The solution?
Put the gag to the Internet regardless of how many use the same instrument for more than lawful purposes.
ISPs, of course, should have been the instrument of censorship, by applying the filters in accordance with the Ministry of Interior, otherwise a fine salt.
It seems that those who sit for Facebook to Rome is the repository - at least for now, until the next fashion - of every wickedness.
Someone should let them see, that the social network is complex because the real world, and that while 433 fans Provenzano there are 369.463 of Falcone and Borsellino.
Senator Gianpiero D'Alia has also sought to correct the roll: not all Facebook is blocked, only the pages involved.
One wonders if the Senator has ever asked what the technical difficulties it would entail for the providers, who could be forced to admit that he can not do as requested.
More time passes, the more it seems that our rulers do not know what the Internet is not how it works.
The problem was born following the discovery of some groups to criminals praising recognized by Riina to the rapists of Guidonia.
The solution?
Put the gag to the Internet regardless of how many use the same instrument for more than lawful purposes.
ISPs, of course, should have been the instrument of censorship, by applying the filters in accordance with the Ministry of Interior, otherwise a fine salt.
It seems that those who sit for Facebook to Rome is the repository - at least for now, until the next fashion - of every wickedness.
Someone should let them see, that the social network is complex because the real world, and that while 433 fans Provenzano there are 369.463 of Falcone and Borsellino.
Senator Gianpiero D'Alia has also sought to correct the roll: not all Facebook is blocked, only the pages involved.
One wonders if the Senator has ever asked what the technical difficulties it would entail for the providers, who could be forced to admit that he can not do as requested.
More time passes, the more it seems that our rulers do not know what the Internet is not how it works.
Evidently Rome is not have nothing better to do than try to muzzle the Internet, or if it appears too difficult for obvious technical issues, at least make sure that whoever is found and darkened as desired.
The last, brilliant, tough and smoke - and therefore dangerous - idea is found in the draft law proposed in 2195 by Gabriella Carlucci with the noble aim of "ensuring the protection of legality on the Internet."
The official publication of the text has yet to happen but some parts - especially the second article - are already circulating and receiving considerable attention.
The first paragraph seems explicit: "It is prohibited to make or facilitate entry into the content network in any form (text, sound, audiovisual and computer science, including databases) in an anonymous".
Well, so everything should sign with name and surname? Need a picture? Are banned nickname? Or already anonymity does not exist in practice - because the providers are able to trace with some certainty, from the information contained in the logs (IP addresses, schedules and so on), the authors of certain content - and therefore This paragraph is unnecessary?
For the operators of anonymisation, as Tor or Freenet, it is perhaps ready to take your bags, since they could facilitate the release of content into anonymous ?
The beginning, in short, is bad. The paragraph seems clear, but in reality leaves wide room for interpretation and thus the ability to bend the law at will.
The second paragraph borders on delirium of omnipotence, even going to threaten those who are outside of Italy: "The subject that, even in competition with other operators on the Italian territory, or unidentified or identified, make possible the conduct referred to 1.
We are not responsible - together with those who made the anonymous publications - each and every offense, give or administrative violation caused damage to third parties or the State. "
Who are these individuals is unclear.
Perhaps those who already accept interventions without prior identification - but retain the right IP address - or even those who give pain to register addresses in contravention of, inter alia, to a European standard is not yet in force, or perhaps even the poor managers tor, targeted by the right and missing.
Nor, on the other hand, the providers are equipped to identify each individual act of each individual user in respect of each service used, nor is it clear whether, with this DDL, Ip is sufficient to identify the "guilty".
Since the worst there is no limit, this is the third paragraph, the longer the preceding and following, but we understand only too quickly by reading the first line: "As regards the crimes of defamation apply, without exception, all the rules on the Press. "
Dangerous: the blog read by three friends and ten casual visitors become exactly equal to the Corriere della Sera, the site with pictures of the family is equivalent to the Repubblica, who ignites the forum dell'Olimpo Informatico - as well as evoking a moderator - in danger a good complaint for libel, because everything is "publication", where the wretch ddl collections approving people.
What beautiful, however !
Every webmaster, even manage the website of local polisportiva, will be called Chief. Perhaps it would be agreed to seek advice to English courts, which deal with the case of Royd Tolkien. http://www.zeusnews.com/index.php3?ar=stampa&cod=9262
Certainly commendable that Mrs Carlucci - or for you who made the proposal - both built in doubt, always all'inteno paragraph 3: "If insurmountable technical problems make it impossible to implement certain measures, particularly with respect to right of reply, the Committee for the protection of legality on the Internet (as stated in article 3 of this Act) may be assigned by the competent magistrate of a case such measures could be implemented, however, to give effect to the provisions of the rules force ".
The doubt is easily translates this way: if someone notices that we are ordering the impossible, the court will deal invent something plausible to be done to the Committee for the protection of legality (a name that just makes you feel as urticaria), now that the existing criminal defamation provides precise consequences.
Finally, the fourth paragraph: "In relation to violations relating to standards for the protection of copyright, related rights and Conditional Access Systems to apply without exception to the rules provided by Law 633/41 and subsequent amendments."
That is, in practice the ddl in 2195 is saying that any breaches of copyright, the law on copyright violations. Useless, but unbreakable.
The good thing is that if there was suspicion that Mrs Carlucci - and most of his colleagues - to legislate things that do not know, now it has fallen, turning into certainty.
Understanding the complexity of the network and the number of participants requires effort and a little 'of humility, while the Internet bubble as "wild no man's land" because of criminal-minded groups on Facebook (ignoring everything else) is much simpler and perhaps also to hear more good.
In fact, perhaps, there was a good idea, at least initially, the proposal to abolish anonymity may imply the idea that individual users are to be held accountable for their actions and not - for example - the providers, as from time to time you want to believe. Sin that has been quickly submerged by unspeakable ddl proposals in 2195
The last, brilliant, tough and smoke - and therefore dangerous - idea is found in the draft law proposed in 2195 by Gabriella Carlucci with the noble aim of "ensuring the protection of legality on the Internet."
The official publication of the text has yet to happen but some parts - especially the second article - are already circulating and receiving considerable attention.
The first paragraph seems explicit: "It is prohibited to make or facilitate entry into the content network in any form (text, sound, audiovisual and computer science, including databases) in an anonymous".
Well, so everything should sign with name and surname? Need a picture? Are banned nickname? Or already anonymity does not exist in practice - because the providers are able to trace with some certainty, from the information contained in the logs (IP addresses, schedules and so on), the authors of certain content - and therefore This paragraph is unnecessary?
For the operators of anonymisation, as Tor or Freenet, it is perhaps ready to take your bags, since they could facilitate the release of content into anonymous ?
The beginning, in short, is bad. The paragraph seems clear, but in reality leaves wide room for interpretation and thus the ability to bend the law at will.
The second paragraph borders on delirium of omnipotence, even going to threaten those who are outside of Italy: "The subject that, even in competition with other operators on the Italian territory, or unidentified or identified, make possible the conduct referred to 1.
We are not responsible - together with those who made the anonymous publications - each and every offense, give or administrative violation caused damage to third parties or the State. "
Who are these individuals is unclear.
Perhaps those who already accept interventions without prior identification - but retain the right IP address - or even those who give pain to register addresses in contravention of, inter alia, to a European standard is not yet in force, or perhaps even the poor managers tor, targeted by the right and missing.
Nor, on the other hand, the providers are equipped to identify each individual act of each individual user in respect of each service used, nor is it clear whether, with this DDL, Ip is sufficient to identify the "guilty".
Since the worst there is no limit, this is the third paragraph, the longer the preceding and following, but we understand only too quickly by reading the first line: "As regards the crimes of defamation apply, without exception, all the rules on the Press. "
Dangerous: the blog read by three friends and ten casual visitors become exactly equal to the Corriere della Sera, the site with pictures of the family is equivalent to the Repubblica, who ignites the forum dell'Olimpo Informatico - as well as evoking a moderator - in danger a good complaint for libel, because everything is "publication", where the wretch ddl collections approving people.
What beautiful, however !
Every webmaster, even manage the website of local polisportiva, will be called Chief. Perhaps it would be agreed to seek advice to English courts, which deal with the case of Royd Tolkien. http://www.zeusnews.com/index.php3?ar=stampa&cod=9262
Certainly commendable that Mrs Carlucci - or for you who made the proposal - both built in doubt, always all'inteno paragraph 3: "If insurmountable technical problems make it impossible to implement certain measures, particularly with respect to right of reply, the Committee for the protection of legality on the Internet (as stated in article 3 of this Act) may be assigned by the competent magistrate of a case such measures could be implemented, however, to give effect to the provisions of the rules force ".
The doubt is easily translates this way: if someone notices that we are ordering the impossible, the court will deal invent something plausible to be done to the Committee for the protection of legality (a name that just makes you feel as urticaria), now that the existing criminal defamation provides precise consequences.
Finally, the fourth paragraph: "In relation to violations relating to standards for the protection of copyright, related rights and Conditional Access Systems to apply without exception to the rules provided by Law 633/41 and subsequent amendments."
That is, in practice the ddl in 2195 is saying that any breaches of copyright, the law on copyright violations. Useless, but unbreakable.
The good thing is that if there was suspicion that Mrs Carlucci - and most of his colleagues - to legislate things that do not know, now it has fallen, turning into certainty.
Understanding the complexity of the network and the number of participants requires effort and a little 'of humility, while the Internet bubble as "wild no man's land" because of criminal-minded groups on Facebook (ignoring everything else) is much simpler and perhaps also to hear more good.
In fact, perhaps, there was a good idea, at least initially, the proposal to abolish anonymity may imply the idea that individual users are to be held accountable for their actions and not - for example - the providers, as from time to time you want to believe. Sin that has been quickly submerged by unspeakable ddl proposals in 2195
Senator Gianpiero D'Alia, "you said that those who praise people like Provenzano, Riina, the Red Brigades", it is guilty of Apology of Crime, then I thought of all those characters that are right in what Fini, Alemanno, Silvio Berlusconi, Santanchè, Storace, Mussolini and those of Forza Nuova.
All these are then guilty of Apology to Reato and thus calling for chased away from Parliament, and put in handcuffs for having praise to the Holocaust, squares or Italian armed with sticks and truncheons, seeking confrontation with the police and Silvio Berlusconi that praise by saying that Mangano was a hero.
This is a small part of those who so wish to enforce the laws, but are the first to have violated.
lunedì 23 febbraio 2009
Gag to Internet: Letter to Gianpiero D'Alia
a info@enisa.europa.eu
On 19 February 2009 5:39
subject Re: I did not even want to discuss his amendment
Hon, Gianpiero Dalia dalia_g@posta.senato.it
You see I tell you what I have read and would like to do, I feel immense disgust for his bill, you should assume that everything a citizen can say, can be criminally prosecuted.
This would be good if the same and the same politicians who are in the House and the Senate, decided to give up parliamentary immunity and to be judged for the crimes they committed, instead go looking for shortcuts that make the shield from, so can not be made them on trial during the term of office that were taken by themselves, then auto elect them when their mandate ends.
Think of governing the country with 37% of the vote is a farce, you do not have a majority and therefore you do not have 50% +1, which enables you to speak at least against the majority.
But who protects the interests of the remaining 49% ? The know realize that all citizens are equal before the law, however there are some who feel above the law, or those who do not want to give up parliamentary immunity, why so you can feel well protected.
you did the accounts without the landlord because already in 2006 the EU had announced the problem, then this is a review of something that has already been lived and she is in the process of amplifying, making other people the people.
I would remind you that according to art .21 of the Italian constitution every citizen is free to express his thoughts without any form of constraint, where we put the poles, then we are not talking about more than free speech, but the repression of freedom of speech .
As he says in relation to content on various sites, there is a way to punish those who commit offenses, then I do not understand this statement of the position, practically duplicates what already exists.
However you would like us to talk about respect of the Italian Constitution, then you start policy to set a good example, you're on those seats, because we have people put you there, from me the voting against the PD, PDL, IDV, UDC, I dreamed you.
The day I hunted people malaffare from party lists, then we could talk about respecting the law, because your President Totò Cuffaro former President of Sicily Region has not assumed the debt with the Italian Justice, as they have not discounted many others, this is not the Italian Parliament of a good example of a country ruled by honest people and that they are Democratic, and indeed towards all the people ITALIAN image as the European Union is viewed with disgust.
All figuracce we have done so far have been tolerated, but as examples Borghezio, leghista that entering the European Parliament waving a symbol of the League, did not leave indifferent the President, but it did put on the door.
This is the image that is projected by some people, not to mention we do with figuracce Silvio Berlusconi when it goes into Televisio and always attacking someone.
So I am ashamed to be a citizen ITALIAN, for each TG we hear from the European Union that we are a democratic country, but ruled by a dictator.
Fate Vobis and see levarvi of chestnuts from the fire, we are tired of being represented by people of malaffare.
I hope you will want to withdraw this bill or we put in the conditions to switch off their servers, do not guarantee any form of service, but at the same time we put down in the conditions of the squares in Italy to protest against that act which makes the whole a herb beam, provide for those who have committed a fault, instead of punishing an entire country.
Like to bring to your attention the interview that you have issued and published on the site of beppegrillo:
The "Wall Shit" D'Alia against Internet
http://www.beppegrillo.it/2009/02/il_merda_wall_c/index.html
He proposed an amendment approved in the Senate, a bill of Brunetta that will force providers to obscure websites, blogs or social media like YouTube and Facebook at the request of the Ministry of Interior for crimes of opinion, such as a movie or a group call fails to comply with a law considered unjust.
Without any ruling of the judiciary.
This now only occurs in China.
In a dictatorship.
http://www.senato.it/leg/16/BGT/Schede/Attsen/00017685.htm
http://mobile.senato.it/japp/bgt/showdoc/frame.jsp?tipodoc=Emend&leg=16&id=391198&idoggetto=413875
The Chinese have erected against the information of the Internet a Golden Wall was inspired by the Chinese Wall.
D'Alia wants to build a Shit Wall, was inspired to psiconano.
The real competitor is Mediaset YouTube.
Mediaset not buy even if I give.
Advertising is moving away from television and the information is in the Network
Putting the Internet under the control of executive power is in fact close your mouth and close to free citizens.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_the_People%27s_Republic_of_China#Golden_Shield_Project
Marco Pancini Google said: "No, the laws to Aziendam then have an impact on the entire ecosystem can not be done.
It should not take Italy to the level of the worst countries in the world in terms of crimes of opinion.
Italy itself has become a country to Aziendam and as a prosecuting crimes of opinion we are not second to none.
The State is ours and we will take him.
http://zambardino.blogautore.repubblica.it/2009/02/12
Google said: "No, the laws to Aziendam then have an impact on the entire ecosystem can not be done.
It should not take Italy to the level of the worst countries in the world in terms of crimes of opinion.
Italy itself has become a country to Aziendam and as a prosecuting crimes of opinion we are not second to none.
The State is ours and we will take him.
Part in the Free Blogger with your own pictures with the words Free Blogger.
http://www.beppegrillo.it/iniziative/freeblogger
From the interview of Alessandro Gilioli to the Sen. Gianpiero D'Alia published on The Espresso
http://gilioli.blogautore.espresso.repubblica.it/2009/02/10/%C2%ABfacebook-e-youtube-o-obbediscono-o-li-oscuro%C2%BB
D'Alia: The amendment to Article 50 introduces a security package, which allows the Minister of the Interior, upon notice of the court which is a crime of incitement to criminal defense or offense, gives the Ministry of Interior the power to require that providers of Internet connectivity to use the filtering tools against those sites, or social
network that contain, say, statements and anything else related to these cases of crime.
That is, it's a standard that is used to begin to intervene in the regulation of the Internet and this comes mainly from events that focused on Facebook, the appearance on the social network for groups to inneggianti Riina, Provenzano, the Red Brigades and so on.
And since there is no tool in making an immediate action if it deems such a course of crime, that is, if the judiciary is investigating, the Minister of Interior is involved with a purely precautionary in nature that serve to avoid
that there is a proliferation of these sites or illegal these events on the network.
Of course, all this takes place with the possibility of recourse to the court by interested parties, but through a kind of contradictory with the operators of sites to which a notice is served to obscure, or delete those parts which are contrary to the positions mentioned.
A. Gilioli: But, Senator, let me interrupt you.
This claim is made that it is this: I read that right its amendment, no one speaks to cancel the parties, but to obscure the site.
Then they say: if there is a group on facebook that calls for Provenzano rather than other things, the effect of his amendment would delete the page, but obscure the entire site.
D'Alia: But excuse me: If the site does not pay to remove these subjects from the site, it is right that the site is obscured.
The Ministry warns the operator, the operator then has two options: either comply and then delete the site group, or do not comply.
If you do not comply it is an accomplice of those who praise Riina and Provenzano is therefore right that is obscured.
A. Gilioli: In YouTube, for example, there are several videos that may fall, perhaps, within the type that you expressed.
If YouTube does not delete the video is obscured the YouTube?
D'Alia: I will, of course.
A. Gilioli: Yet another case ...
D'Alia: Let me give an example: if one comes out on YouTube video, as it happened, and also there have been several controversies, in which four boys beat their contemporary disabile however, in this case we represent the presence of a crime is not that there is an apology: there is the direct or playing a film in which it is committing a criminal offense is right that a site is maintained?
I think not.
A. Gilioli: Another case: there is a debate online, on sites in the forums.
Among users of the forum may be that there is also that insults or threatens you.
She believes this is a type ...
D'Alia: If someone threatens me, the threat in reality or on the internet is always a crime.
A. Gilioli: Here are another kind: I am allegedly the author of a blog.
Within some of my blog, one of the commentators on my blog, I insult, threat.
I who am the blog master and then I think it is fair to leave my blog open to each entry, including those that threaten me and insult me, do not I hide these items.
Even in this case falls within the type?
D'Alia: Look, cover all those assumptions that are provided under the Criminal Code of the crimes of murder or incitement to disobey the law.
The crimes of apology of crime, which are provided by the Criminal Code or other provisions.
These are all assumptions that are brought to case illegal, who are already punished in the criminal code and that thus need to be sanctioned in all their manifestations.
It is not that changes if I make a stencils to say that Riina ...
A. Gilioli: Excuse me Senator, are we talking about the comments to a blog ...
D'Alia: Well, the comments to a blog is not that different: if in a comment to a blog I would say that the Red Brigades have done well to kill Moro, this is called apology of crime.
What I do on the blog, with a telegram, a card, with a press release does not change:
Always it comes to crime and should be pursued, and should be pursued if the one who makes it complicit publishing these disgraceful, including whether it is an operator of the Internet just be clear.
I think in this way.
A. Gilioli: Senta senator: you are a frequenter of the network?
D'Alia: Yes
A. Gilioli: On facebook there's going?
D'Alia: No, I go on facebook indigna just because I see on that site that you censurino mothers who breastfeed their children because it is considered an aesthetically offensive, unsightly, and then allow the various groups, such as "Homage to Cutolo, who is a relative of pentiti infamous confidants and please do not subscribe to this site dedicated to Cutolo.
I do not go there because this site that censure the mothers, as also correctly says Article 21, and allows these disgraceful is an unworthy, from my point of view.
With all due respect to those who enter.
A. Gilioli: Are you aware that if you close in YouTube and Facebook we are worse than the Birmania ?
D'Alia: Look, I do not have to close or Facebook or YouTube: I am because Facebook and YouTube respect the victims of the Mafia, terrorism and rapes.
A. Gilioli: And if you do not comply?
D'Alia: You do not comply can not have respect for the rule.
A. Gilioli: So are closed.
D'Alia: And 'evident.
As published on the site of BeppeGrillo I sent to the European Parliament, we will see what they say, I know that I send him a brief to the European Union, but the beauty is that the site of the European Union, we learn the following statement:
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?type=IM-PRESS&reference=20060718STO09901&language=EN
Parliament backs Internet freedom Citizens' rights - 18-07-2006 - 12:08
Internet in chains ?
The fight for freedom of expression has today largely shifted on-line the European Parliament notes in a resolution adopted during its July plenary.
In view of the ever more far-reaching methods of controlling the Internet and the increasing number of so called "cyber-dissidents", the Parliament calls for an EU code of conduct to limit western businesses that contribute to censoring the internet in repressive countries.
The US is already preparing a similar measure.
The Internet has become the means of expression for political dissidents, human rights defenders and independent journalists worldwide the Parliament notes.
At the same time, authoritarian governments use more and more sophisticated filtering and surveillance technology often coming from western companies.
The Chinese government has even persuaded companies such as Yahoo, Google and Microsoft to facilitate the censorship of their services.
Imprisoned in Cyberspace ?
According to human rights organisations, most of the cyber-dissidents detained in prison are in China a country which recently concluded an agreement with the search engine Google to operate there as long as certain web pages were blocked.
The Paris-based Reporters Without Frontiers group which campaigns for press freedom have been particularly critical of China which has its share of cyber-dissidents.
They include the recently released Chinese blogger and documentary filmmaker Hao Wu, the journalist Shi Tao and cyber-dissident Yang Zili.
Convinced that the freedom of expression is a key yardstick to judge whether a society is democratic and open, the Parliament strongly condemns restrictions on Internet content (apart from when it is illegal), as well as the harassment and imprisonment of Internet users.
It calls on the EU to take steps to promote free speech on the web and to help release detained Internet users.
Parliament's President Borrell raises concerns
During his visit to China last week, EP President Josep Borrell welcomed the release of cyber-dissident Hao Wu - a week after the Parliament adopted its resolution that referred to his case.
There is still a long way to go and I raised Parliament concerns about remaining restrictions on the freedom of expression the President said in a statement concluding his visit.
President Borrell also called upon China to ratify the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, of which article 19 seeks to guarantee unrestricted freedom of expression.
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/multimedia/img/news/cont/20060718PHT09899/pict_20060718PHT09899.jpg
Regards,
Paul Del Bene
ps: I hope that you know the English language, otherwise does translate it.
On 19 February 2009 5:39
subject Re: I did not even want to discuss his amendment
Hon, Gianpiero Dalia dalia_g@posta.senato.it
You see I tell you what I have read and would like to do, I feel immense disgust for his bill, you should assume that everything a citizen can say, can be criminally prosecuted.
This would be good if the same and the same politicians who are in the House and the Senate, decided to give up parliamentary immunity and to be judged for the crimes they committed, instead go looking for shortcuts that make the shield from, so can not be made them on trial during the term of office that were taken by themselves, then auto elect them when their mandate ends.
Think of governing the country with 37% of the vote is a farce, you do not have a majority and therefore you do not have 50% +1, which enables you to speak at least against the majority.
But who protects the interests of the remaining 49% ? The know realize that all citizens are equal before the law, however there are some who feel above the law, or those who do not want to give up parliamentary immunity, why so you can feel well protected.
you did the accounts without the landlord because already in 2006 the EU had announced the problem, then this is a review of something that has already been lived and she is in the process of amplifying, making other people the people.
I would remind you that according to art .21 of the Italian constitution every citizen is free to express his thoughts without any form of constraint, where we put the poles, then we are not talking about more than free speech, but the repression of freedom of speech .
As he says in relation to content on various sites, there is a way to punish those who commit offenses, then I do not understand this statement of the position, practically duplicates what already exists.
However you would like us to talk about respect of the Italian Constitution, then you start policy to set a good example, you're on those seats, because we have people put you there, from me the voting against the PD, PDL, IDV, UDC, I dreamed you.
The day I hunted people malaffare from party lists, then we could talk about respecting the law, because your President Totò Cuffaro former President of Sicily Region has not assumed the debt with the Italian Justice, as they have not discounted many others, this is not the Italian Parliament of a good example of a country ruled by honest people and that they are Democratic, and indeed towards all the people ITALIAN image as the European Union is viewed with disgust.
All figuracce we have done so far have been tolerated, but as examples Borghezio, leghista that entering the European Parliament waving a symbol of the League, did not leave indifferent the President, but it did put on the door.
This is the image that is projected by some people, not to mention we do with figuracce Silvio Berlusconi when it goes into Televisio and always attacking someone.
So I am ashamed to be a citizen ITALIAN, for each TG we hear from the European Union that we are a democratic country, but ruled by a dictator.
Fate Vobis and see levarvi of chestnuts from the fire, we are tired of being represented by people of malaffare.
I hope you will want to withdraw this bill or we put in the conditions to switch off their servers, do not guarantee any form of service, but at the same time we put down in the conditions of the squares in Italy to protest against that act which makes the whole a herb beam, provide for those who have committed a fault, instead of punishing an entire country.
Like to bring to your attention the interview that you have issued and published on the site of beppegrillo:
The "Wall Shit" D'Alia against Internet
http://www.beppegrillo.it/2009/02/il_merda_wall_c/index.html
He proposed an amendment approved in the Senate, a bill of Brunetta that will force providers to obscure websites, blogs or social media like YouTube and Facebook at the request of the Ministry of Interior for crimes of opinion, such as a movie or a group call fails to comply with a law considered unjust.
Without any ruling of the judiciary.
This now only occurs in China.
In a dictatorship.
http://www.senato.it/leg/16/BGT/Schede/Attsen/00017685.htm
D'Alia wants to build a Shit Wall, was inspired to psiconano.
The real competitor is Mediaset YouTube.
Mediaset not buy even if I give.
Advertising is moving away from television and the information is in the Network
Putting the Internet under the control of executive power is in fact close your mouth and close to free citizens.
It should not take Italy to the level of the worst countries in the world in terms of crimes of opinion.
Italy itself has become a country to Aziendam and as a prosecuting crimes of opinion we are not second to none.
The State is ours and we will take him.
It should not take Italy to the level of the worst countries in the world in terms of crimes of opinion.
Italy itself has become a country to Aziendam and as a prosecuting crimes of opinion we are not second to none.
The State is ours and we will take him.
Part in the Free Blogger with your own pictures with the words Free Blogger.
http://gilioli.blogautore.espresso.repubblica.it/2009/02/10/%C2%ABfacebook-e-youtube-o-obbediscono-o-li-oscuro%C2%BB
D'Alia: The amendment to Article 50 introduces a security package, which allows the Minister of the Interior, upon notice of the court which is a crime of incitement to criminal defense or offense, gives the Ministry of Interior the power to require that providers of Internet connectivity to use the filtering tools against those sites, or social
network that contain, say, statements and anything else related to these cases of crime.
That is, it's a standard that is used to begin to intervene in the regulation of the Internet and this comes mainly from events that focused on Facebook, the appearance on the social network for groups to inneggianti Riina, Provenzano, the Red Brigades and so on.
And since there is no tool in making an immediate action if it deems such a course of crime, that is, if the judiciary is investigating, the Minister of Interior is involved with a purely precautionary in nature that serve to avoid
that there is a proliferation of these sites or illegal these events on the network.
Of course, all this takes place with the possibility of recourse to the court by interested parties, but through a kind of contradictory with the operators of sites to which a notice is served to obscure, or delete those parts which are contrary to the positions mentioned.
A. Gilioli: But, Senator, let me interrupt you.
This claim is made that it is this: I read that right its amendment, no one speaks to cancel the parties, but to obscure the site.
Then they say: if there is a group on facebook that calls for Provenzano rather than other things, the effect of his amendment would delete the page, but obscure the entire site.
D'Alia: But excuse me: If the site does not pay to remove these subjects from the site, it is right that the site is obscured.
The Ministry warns the operator, the operator then has two options: either comply and then delete the site group, or do not comply.
If you do not comply it is an accomplice of those who praise Riina and Provenzano is therefore right that is obscured.
A. Gilioli: In YouTube, for example, there are several videos that may fall, perhaps, within the type that you expressed.
If YouTube does not delete the video is obscured the YouTube?
D'Alia: I will, of course.
A. Gilioli: Yet another case ...
D'Alia: Let me give an example: if one comes out on YouTube video, as it happened, and also there have been several controversies, in which four boys beat their contemporary disabile however, in this case we represent the presence of a crime is not that there is an apology: there is the direct or playing a film in which it is committing a criminal offense is right that a site is maintained?
I think not.
A. Gilioli: Another case: there is a debate online, on sites in the forums.
Among users of the forum may be that there is also that insults or threatens you.
She believes this is a type ...
D'Alia: If someone threatens me, the threat in reality or on the internet is always a crime.
A. Gilioli: Here are another kind: I am allegedly the author of a blog.
Within some of my blog, one of the commentators on my blog, I insult, threat.
I who am the blog master and then I think it is fair to leave my blog open to each entry, including those that threaten me and insult me, do not I hide these items.
Even in this case falls within the type?
D'Alia: Look, cover all those assumptions that are provided under the Criminal Code of the crimes of murder or incitement to disobey the law.
The crimes of apology of crime, which are provided by the Criminal Code or other provisions.
These are all assumptions that are brought to case illegal, who are already punished in the criminal code and that thus need to be sanctioned in all their manifestations.
It is not that changes if I make a stencils to say that Riina ...
A. Gilioli: Excuse me Senator, are we talking about the comments to a blog ...
D'Alia: Well, the comments to a blog is not that different: if in a comment to a blog I would say that the Red Brigades have done well to kill Moro, this is called apology of crime.
What I do on the blog, with a telegram, a card, with a press release does not change:
Always it comes to crime and should be pursued, and should be pursued if the one who makes it complicit publishing these disgraceful, including whether it is an operator of the Internet just be clear.
I think in this way.
A. Gilioli: Senta senator: you are a frequenter of the network?
D'Alia: Yes
A. Gilioli: On facebook there's going?
D'Alia: No, I go on facebook indigna just because I see on that site that you censurino mothers who breastfeed their children because it is considered an aesthetically offensive, unsightly, and then allow the various groups, such as "Homage to Cutolo, who is a relative of pentiti infamous confidants and please do not subscribe to this site dedicated to Cutolo.
I do not go there because this site that censure the mothers, as also correctly says Article 21, and allows these disgraceful is an unworthy, from my point of view.
With all due respect to those who enter.
A. Gilioli: Are you aware that if you close in YouTube and Facebook we are worse than the Birmania ?
D'Alia: Look, I do not have to close or Facebook or YouTube: I am because Facebook and YouTube respect the victims of the Mafia, terrorism and rapes.
A. Gilioli: And if you do not comply?
D'Alia: You do not comply can not have respect for the rule.
A. Gilioli: So are closed.
D'Alia: And 'evident.
As published on the site of BeppeGrillo I sent to the European Parliament, we will see what they say, I know that I send him a brief to the European Union, but the beauty is that the site of the European Union, we learn the following statement:
Parliament backs Internet freedom Citizens' rights - 18-07-2006 - 12:08
Internet in chains ?
The fight for freedom of expression has today largely shifted on-line the European Parliament notes in a resolution adopted during its July plenary.
In view of the ever more far-reaching methods of controlling the Internet and the increasing number of so called "cyber-dissidents", the Parliament calls for an EU code of conduct to limit western businesses that contribute to censoring the internet in repressive countries.
The US is already preparing a similar measure.
The Internet has become the means of expression for political dissidents, human rights defenders and independent journalists worldwide the Parliament notes.
At the same time, authoritarian governments use more and more sophisticated filtering and surveillance technology often coming from western companies.
The Chinese government has even persuaded companies such as Yahoo, Google and Microsoft to facilitate the censorship of their services.
Imprisoned in Cyberspace ?
According to human rights organisations, most of the cyber-dissidents detained in prison are in China a country which recently concluded an agreement with the search engine Google to operate there as long as certain web pages were blocked.
The Paris-based Reporters Without Frontiers group which campaigns for press freedom have been particularly critical of China which has its share of cyber-dissidents.
They include the recently released Chinese blogger and documentary filmmaker Hao Wu, the journalist Shi Tao and cyber-dissident Yang Zili.
Convinced that the freedom of expression is a key yardstick to judge whether a society is democratic and open, the Parliament strongly condemns restrictions on Internet content (apart from when it is illegal), as well as the harassment and imprisonment of Internet users.
It calls on the EU to take steps to promote free speech on the web and to help release detained Internet users.
Parliament's President Borrell raises concerns
During his visit to China last week, EP President Josep Borrell welcomed the release of cyber-dissident Hao Wu - a week after the Parliament adopted its resolution that referred to his case.
There is still a long way to go and I raised Parliament concerns about remaining restrictions on the freedom of expression the President said in a statement concluding his visit.
President Borrell also called upon China to ratify the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, of which article 19 seeks to guarantee unrestricted freedom of expression.
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/multimedia/img/news/cont/20060718PHT09899/pict_20060718PHT09899.jpg
Regards,
Paul Del Bene
ps: I hope that you know the English language, otherwise does translate it.
sabato 21 febbraio 2009
Gag to Internet: and the ninux.org
To: wireless-ml@ninux.org
Date: 15 February 2009 16:19
Subject: The Wall of Shit D'Alia against Internet
Politician cacasotto! that advocates crime, everyone is free to externalise his free thought, then what you say does not correspond to true, will be issued a notice of guarantee and we will move on to the investigation.
but to decide before that one might say that any citizen is prosecuted criminally, we sincerely passes water under the bridge.
but how nerve then tell us of the Apology of Crime? remember to whom we are represented and what are the people who should do our interest, when do their cocks.
from PD to PDL, the PDL all'UDC as well as in Italy of Values, everyone has the mange, not to mention the contempt to the Italian flag made by Umberto Bossi, who said that you cleaned the piss and the symbol that sent a fuck.
if we want to go into detail of every single crime committed by these gentlemen, there is very little from star to discuss, there are about 800 pages.
if I remember well on Silvio Berlusconi does not count even more files and pages containing every single crime committed by him and never paid to the Italian Justice because the crimes have gone in prescription or because they were given bribes to guards or mgistrati Finance .. ..
all things put on record, of which nothing has been said, I wonder how some people that, despite forming part of this group have had the courage to vote.
We want to say that nell'UDC Totò Cuffaro President of Sicily Region was forced to resign because found guilty by association with the Mafia?
Has not yet paid the debt with the Italian Justice discounted in Galera, the same party are in Pier Feridinando casini related Caltagirone and D'Alia who would like to Morsa the Internet.
Youtube and Facebook, it is not important for me but they must decide what to a blogmust includes ... is something immoral in Parliament when we have people who have been convicted in a final, should stay in jail, and instead are in Parliament.
If we did crimes as: Silvio Berlusconi, Fini, Alemanno, Veltroni ... then we may aspire to enter Parliament, because the Parliament has the mange.
and this is what is deposited on the procedural issues of these gentlemen as on the books of Marco Travaglio.
you will read the books: "Se li conosci li eviti", "Mani Sporche", "Bavaglio", "Gli Intoccabili", "Onorevoli Wanted".... of Marco Travaglio.
The disgust and the Shit that goes from the foot to the head will continue to hold those individuals who are currently in parliament and others should do the good of the nation, while they do their cocks and they do not that even the moralists against drugs are the ones who sniff cocaine and go to whores.
If the ninux.org really was interested to defend the collective freedom of the networks, then I would not have anything to say as instead reported in its Manifesto.
Date: 15 February 2009 16:19
Subject: The Wall of Shit D'Alia against Internet
Politician cacasotto! that advocates crime, everyone is free to externalise his free thought, then what you say does not correspond to true, will be issued a notice of guarantee and we will move on to the investigation.
but to decide before that one might say that any citizen is prosecuted criminally, we sincerely passes water under the bridge.
but how nerve then tell us of the Apology of Crime? remember to whom we are represented and what are the people who should do our interest, when do their cocks.
from PD to PDL, the PDL all'UDC as well as in Italy of Values, everyone has the mange, not to mention the contempt to the Italian flag made by Umberto Bossi, who said that you cleaned the piss and the symbol that sent a fuck.
if we want to go into detail of every single crime committed by these gentlemen, there is very little from star to discuss, there are about 800 pages.
if I remember well on Silvio Berlusconi does not count even more files and pages containing every single crime committed by him and never paid to the Italian Justice because the crimes have gone in prescription or because they were given bribes to guards or mgistrati Finance .. ..
all things put on record, of which nothing has been said, I wonder how some people that, despite forming part of this group have had the courage to vote.
We want to say that nell'UDC Totò Cuffaro President of Sicily Region was forced to resign because found guilty by association with the Mafia?
Has not yet paid the debt with the Italian Justice discounted in Galera, the same party are in Pier Feridinando casini related Caltagirone and D'Alia who would like to Morsa the Internet.
Youtube and Facebook, it is not important for me but they must decide what to a blogmust includes ... is something immoral in Parliament when we have people who have been convicted in a final, should stay in jail, and instead are in Parliament.
If we did crimes as: Silvio Berlusconi, Fini, Alemanno, Veltroni ... then we may aspire to enter Parliament, because the Parliament has the mange.
and this is what is deposited on the procedural issues of these gentlemen as on the books of Marco Travaglio.
you will read the books: "Se li conosci li eviti", "Mani Sporche", "Bavaglio", "Gli Intoccabili", "Onorevoli Wanted".... of Marco Travaglio.
The disgust and the Shit that goes from the foot to the head will continue to hold those individuals who are currently in parliament and others should do the good of the nation, while they do their cocks and they do not that even the moralists against drugs are the ones who sniff cocaine and go to whores.
If the ninux.org really was interested to defend the collective freedom of the networks, then I would not have anything to say as instead reported in its Manifesto.
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